American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[FlameOn]

And Trump just hastily arranged a meeting with the Russian ambassador at White House today. I wonder what they wanted to talk about on such short notice.
https://apnews.com/190c006d277c48f7954e472282a2436b

[burn_this_city]

Feels like the Russians probably have kompromat on the majority of the Republican leadership.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by chemgear

How could any Republican voter not find this suspicious? This whole thing is like a ####ty Tom Clancy novel.

[FlameOn]

Trump just hired a law firm to create propaganda fighting suggestions he has ties with Russia.

He is lawyering up, he just fired the guy leading the FBI investigation into him and his campaign's connections to Russia the day before the guy was supposed to testify. And he does all this immediately after testimony by Yates and Clapper while arranging a meeting with the Russian ambassador. He is panicking and flailing right now. That is extremely dangerous and I really worry about a 'distraction' in Korean with global implications.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...s-ties-n757106

[Muta]

This is nuts. The Comey firing, the sad defences from Spicer and KAC, Mitch McConnell rejecting a special prosecutor for a further investigation, no US media allowed in Trump's meeting with Russian delegates.... and this is only in the last 24 hours. This is in addition to firings of Yates and Bharara, both also involved with the investigation of Trump.

America is losing credibility and becoming a laughing stock to the rest of the world. How are Americans not protesting in the streets? Scratch that, I'm sure it'll happen.

[photon]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I'm not sure what the message is from the GOP or if they have a unified message or position.

Their actions will be what's interesting. Trump's already repeatedly ignored his duty to at least appear to maintain the integrity of and his being subject to the judiciary.

If a yes man is nominated how the senate votes will be the message. It'll either be "no, we need a strong independent FBI director to ensure the FBI is neutral in both appearance and practice" or "party before country".

[FlameOn]

Russians top diplomat mocks the US over the Comey firing in front of Tillerson, on US soil, in the White House. When do we find out Russia's pick for FBI director?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...t-comey-firing

[photon]

WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three officials with knowledge of his request.

Mr. Comey asked for the resources during a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of the F.B.I. director this week.

Mr. Comey then briefed members of Congress on the meeting in recent days.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/u...ation-fbi.html

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by photon

If a yes man is nominated how the senate votes will be the message. It'll either be "no, we need a strong independent FBI director to ensure the FBI is neutral in both appearance and practice" or "party before country".

No points for guessing which, unfortunately.

[wittynickname]

Well look at that, it was never a matter of "economic insecurity" that pushed white working class people to vote for Trump:

Although demographic factors like gender, age, geographic region, and religion weren’t statistically significant predictors of who voted for Trump, some of the other information gathered in the survey offers a portrait of how white working-class Americans feel about their status in the world. Nearly two-thirds of the white working class say American culture has gotten worse since the 1950s. Sixty-eight percent say the U.S. is in danger of losing its identity, and 62 percent say America’s growing number of immigrants threaten the country’s culture. More than half say discrimination against whites has become just as problematic as discrimination against minorities.

This analysis provides only a surface look at the concerns and anxieties of America’s white working class. Polling is a notoriously clumsy instrument for understanding people’s lives, and provides only a sketch of who they are. But it’s useful for debunking myths and narratives—particularly the ubiquitous idea that economic anxiety drove white working-class voters to support Trump. When these voters hear messages from their president, they’re listening with ears attuned to cultural change and anxiety about America’s multicultural future. It would be a mistake to use this insight to create yet another caricature of the Trump voter. But perhaps it will complicate the stereotypes about destitute factory landscapes and poor folks who had nowhere to turn but right.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...nxiety/525771/


Basically the narrative was right all along. It wasn't really about coal miners wanting no-longer existent coal jobs back, even if they said so. It wasn't about factory workers who've fallen into poverty. No, the biggest factor was rural whites who just want a return to the 1950s, who then voted for Trump because they're terrified of all these minorities and women and gay people wanting equal rights and representation.

[CaptainCrunch]

To me, Congress is going to have to start working in a bipartisan manner to at least start a congressional impeachment investigation which I believe is in their power.

This is different from what I understand from an Impeachment proceeding. But its looking into finding grounds for impeachment.

With the firing of Coney it just stinks of extra legal command influence right from the Presidents Office.

Right now, its really up to the Republicans and the Democrats to basically protect the constitution.

[ernie]

Bipartisanship? lol. That isn't going to happen. It should but it isn't.

Heck yesterday when it came out the Senate working group for healthcare had no women on it they started talking about how the working group was "52 of us". Well shouldn't the working group be 100 of you? Especially on an issue and legislation that the country is clearly divided on?

Nope. All about winning with their ideology and nothing else.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

To me, Congress is going to have to start working in a bipartisan manner to at least start a congressional impeachment investigation which I believe is in their power.

This is different from what I understand from an Impeachment proceeding. But its looking into finding grounds for impeachment.

With the firing of Coney it just stinks of extra legal command influence right from the Presidents Office.

Right now, its really up to the Republicans and the Democrats to basically protect the constitution.

No, it is up to Republicans. Don't make this golden mean fallacy viewpoint a crutch. The Republicans have the majority, the Republicans have the power to make the change, and the Republicans are the ones fiddling whilst Rome burns.

Don't try and lay this at the feet of some imaginary bipartisan bullcrap. This mess is 100% on the Republican party and they need to own that.

[Muta]

This would be a bombshell if true. From former WH staff, Claude Taylor.

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/...68347352346624

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Muta

This would be a bombshell if true. From former WH staff, Claude Taylor.

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/...68347352346624

Anything that starts with "starting to hear" is almost definitely false.

[Jordan!]

McConnel is such a sack of garbage

[FlameOn]

Andrew McCabe is going to be the new acting head of the FBI. Of course he is under investigation himself from the IG.

http://www.businessinsider.com/andre...igation-2017-5

[troutman]

Putin denies involvement, while in full hockey uniform (video):

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/862338641791680512

[Looch City]

[and while riding a bear]

[Muta]

Originally Posted by peter12

Anything that starts with "starting to hear" is almost definitely false.

Except that the guy has a good track record for information and is a credible source, so it's not just some random Twitter account. He's broken news items in the past.