Edmonton is No Good Episode 4: New Rink, Same Stink

[Locke]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

of course it will....glad you can tel the future

meanwhile, Chia's "bad management" has the Oilers on the verge of home-ice advantage after being in 29th last year

I'll take that "bad management" all the time

Jesus man....dial it back to a marginally less embarrassing 11.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Jesus man....dial it back to a marginally less embarrassing 11.

100% off topic, but this is the (no joke) 11th reference to Spinal Tap, I have seen today.

Guess we know what tonight's viewing is gonna consist of.

[AlbertaOiler72]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Unsustainable.

based on what?

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

While this is true, Winnipeg kept doing it. Calgary stopped and it was revived in the 2000s.

I realize this adds nothing to the post.

True, Craig Conroy in 04 mentioned it would be cool if they did it again, and the fans obliged. Difference being the fans brought their own stuff. Red shirts saying "Calgary Mentality" or something corny weren't handed to fans as they came through the turnstiles

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

based on what?

Here's a quick example.

Let me know if you want more.

Stephen Burtch‏ @SteveBurtch Apr 5
Last year the Oiler's xFenSV% in All situations was .9356, this year it is .9277 (significantly worse)

Stephen Burtch‏
@SteveBurtch

the distinction in GA is almost ENTIRELY due to the performance of Cam Talbot. Last year's Adj.FenSV% = +0.41, this year = +1.32

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

True, Craig Conroy in 04 mentioned it would be cool if they did it again, and the fans obliged. Difference being the fans brought their own stuff. Red shirts saying "Calgary Mentality" or something corny weren't handed to fans as they came through the turnstiles

Oooh.....thats brilliant!

Okay, I need 20,000 Orange T-Shirts, BC Chris and a ride to Edmonton!

The opening scene of the first playoffs in Edmonton since time immemorial and the entire crowd dressed in stupid orange T-shirts that read:

"We sucked #### for McDavid!"

Brilliant. We can make this happen.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

of course it will....glad you can tel the future

meanwhile, Chia's "bad management" has the Oilers on the verge of home-ice advantage after being in 29th last year

I'll take that "bad management" all the time

Boston loved what Chia did for them as well until the team was put in a spot where they traded Seguin and Hamilton to address cap needs.

That Lucic deal will definitely hurt the Oilers down the line and cost the team a Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, or Nurse.

I give him credit for Talbot that proved to be a great pickup. Lest we forget the Griffin Reinhart trade

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Was it better than the Oilers decade of being at the bottom? Sure.



It was still a failure to launch.

9 years out of 10 out of the playoffs.

8 different coaches.



That wasn't a smooth rebuild. No sir.

And yet, they some how managed to become successful without 8 top 10 picks or without being the worst team in the league EVER during their bad years. Chicago might not have had the quickest rebuild but it was still faster and more successful than the Oilers. Again they did this all without lucking into a generation player. You're kidding yourself if you think you resemble Chicago, at all. Man, you guys would be a lot more tolerable if you had an ounce of self awareness.

[TheIronMaiden]

Here is a rare picture inside the Oilers' arena during the playoffs

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

based on what?

Originally Posted by nobles_point

Here's a quick example.

Let me know if you want more.

Stephen Burtch‏ @SteveBurtch Apr 5
Last year the Oiler's xFenSV% in All situations was .9356, this year it is .9277 (significantly worse)

Stephen Burtch‏
@SteveBurtch

the distinction in GA is almost ENTIRELY due to the performance of Cam Talbot. Last year's Adj.FenSV% = +0.41, this year = +1.32

Based on that and what is basically a 30 point improvement in a year where a huge chunk of your offense is based on one line and your goalie basically puts up godzilla smashing tokyo type perfoprmances, and you have very few significant injuries, and on top of that a quarter of your games involve teams playing the second half of their back to back.

Even the eye test is 70's WWE like, when McDavid is out your team looks credible when your other lines are out your team looks like the same dead team as years past.

Also in terms of cap crunch, you're going to be pretty much out of the free agent game for a while and you're going to have to trade depth for cap space and you don't have much coming up from your farm to fill that depth thanks to a decade worth of pretty much atrocious drafting after round one.

This is it for your team, unsustainable a flukey bump in the road and then a scream of torpedoes in the water and then glug glug.

[GreenLantern2814]

http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-nhl-owne...ons-1794095401

A Darryl Katz sex scandal just before the playoffs. There is a God

[CaptainCrunch]

[Locke]

The Oilers...the gift that just keeps on giving.

It just ethereally cant help itself. Edmonton is just that No Good.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

100% off topic, but this is the (no joke) 11th reference to Spinal Tap, I have seen today.

Guess we know what tonight's viewing is gonna consist of.

Slapshot of course!

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Based on that and what is basically a 30 point improvement in a year where a huge chunk of your offense is based on one line and your goalie basically puts up godzilla smashing tokyo type perfoprmances, and you have very few significant injuries, and on top of that a quarter of your games involve teams playing the second half of their back to back.

Even the eye test is 70's WWE like, when McDavid is out your team looks credible when your other lines are out your team looks like the same dead team as years past.

Also in terms of cap crunch, you're going to be pretty much out of the free agent game for a while and you're going to have to trade depth for cap space and you don't have much coming up from your farm to fill that depth thanks to a decade worth of pretty much atrocious drafting after round one.

This is it for your team, unsustainable a flukey bump in the road and then a scream of torpedoes in the water and then glug glug.

Spot on. What has made Chicago so successful is drafting and developing very good players outside of the lottery and then when said players are due for a significant raise Bowman is a master of acquiring cheaper players with high potential and seamlessly integrating them into the team. Charelli has a history of overpaying players and then having to trade other players with high cap hits for pennies on the dollar (being a desirable destination for guys like Panarin doesn't hurt either). There's a reason the Bruins only won one cup in Charelli's tenure and that he was fired less than 2 years after winning the cup.

Johnny Boychuk for two seconds and a third. Ouch.

Dougie Hamilton for 3 picks (I realize that it was Sweeney who traded him but his hand was forced by Charelli's roster moves).

Seguin/Peverley/Button for Eriksson/Morrow/Smith/Fraser. Barf.

Khudobin for Penner. Cringe.

Colborne/1st for Kaberle. Brutal.

[PeteMoss]

The big test for Chia/Oilers will be Maroon. A potted plant could play with Draisaitl and McDavid and put up 20 goals. If they re-sign him after next year to a big deal, you know they are going to screw their cap up.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Slapshot of course!

A double Feature Night! TGIF Baby!!!!!

[AlbertaOiler72]

Originally Posted by nobles_point

Here's a quick example.

Let me know if you want more.

Stephen Burtch‏ @SteveBurtch Apr 5
Last year the Oiler's xFenSV% in All situations was .9356, this year it is .9277 (significantly worse)

Stephen Burtch‏
@SteveBurtch

the distinction in GA is almost ENTIRELY due to the performance of Cam Talbot. Last year's Adj.FenSV% = +0.41, this year = +1.32

so what made up fancy stat is this one now? and what does it prove?

I know they've improved their goal's for and goal's against by a significant margin, as well as the shots for and against...and their Goal differential has improved by a whopping +73

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

so what made up fancy stat is this one now? and what does it prove?

[CrazyCaper]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

The big test for Chia/Oilers will be Maroon. A potted plant could play with Draisaitl and McDavid and put up 20 goals. If they re-sign him after next year to a big deal, you know they are going to screw their cap up.

Reminds me of the same situation Vancouver went through with Anson Carter when he played with the Sedins.

Look how well that turned out!!