[News] New Arena - Plan B - Victoria Park

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by GGG

However the new Edmonton arena in the cheap seats still has the cattle car affect when you leave and long bathroom and concession lines. I am faster getting concession and bathrooms in the Dome than I was at the new stadium so the difference between old and new is less than the difference between knowing the tricks vs non knowing. In my opinion the upgrade for the cheap seats is much less dramatic then people think.

Agreed. My experience in Rogers Arena was similar to the Dome. You still have long beer lines and long bathroom queues. They were shorter, but negligible.

[RM14]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I don't smoke or drink and it still took me 15-20 minutes from the time I entered the bathroom lineup to the time I was back in my seat. Intermissions are 18 minutes now as well.

This isn't an argument for a new building just a reply to someone who called another post hyperbole.

I do smoke and drink. Every intermission, I wait 3 or 4 mins and watch the kids game, head for to one of two washrooms I use, have a smoke, and hit a beer vendor on the way back (cash no lines). All in 13 minutes.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

In the new arena in Edmonton the lines for food and drink are the same or worse for upper bowl fans.

I'm not 100% sure that will be the case when Calgary builds a new rink, but the cynic in me says that the focus of the new rink will be on the customers that pay the premium prices.

This just sucks for Edmonton then.

Not all new rinks are the same, but games I've seen in newer buildings literally have no lines. Arizona gets an asterisk as it wasn't full, but the Kings game I saw was full, Brooklyn was full.

Maybe Albertans drink too much!

Have to admit, if I don't gain convenience then a new arena is way less of a wish.

[automaton 3]

Haven't seen a game yet at Roger's, but attended a concert in the upper bowl.

The concourse and the location are much better than Rexall. We stayed at the Delta downtown and walked over, and also walked to a nearby pub.

Sight-lines are no better than Rexall or the Saddledome though. Still long lineups for beer and bathroom. Exiting down the escalator was a huge traffic jam.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Bingo

And you don't see a malt line bringing traffic to a standstill in newer buildings.

This isn't talked about enought! WTF is with that line? Seriously.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Bingo

This just sucks for Edmonton then.

Not all new rinks are the same, but games I've seen in newer buildings literally have no lines. Arizona gets an asterisk as it wasn't full, but the Kings game I saw was full, Brooklyn was full.

Maybe Albertans drink too much!

Have to admit, if I don't gain convenience then a new arena is way less of a wish.

The Lower Bowl at Rogers is a huge upgrade on Rexall for what its worth. Plus loge seating and all that.

I imagine the same will happen for Calgary. Marginal if any increase to the game experience for the upper bowl fans. Big increase for the lower bowl.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Weitz

You could walk and use the large bathroom and walk back after faster than waiting 15 minutes for the small one.

I’m not sure if the Montreal game was extra busy or more beer consumption (ie: more bathroom breaks) or both but I have the bathroom/beer process nailed down and I missed the start of the second period that night. The concourse was a zoo and reminded me of a playoff game (which is 10x worse then a typical regular season game).

[Scary Eloranta]

Did a quick mockup as I have a question about the location of the new arena. Would this be fairly accurate or would it be a bit further north? Threw in a stadium too because as a Stamps STH I hate McMahon - I'm sure this would never happen.

[getbak]

Yes, that's the general area that's being discussed. Basically between 12th and 14th Avenues and 4th and 5th Streets.

The stadium wouldn't fit there though. If they were going to consider Stampede Park for a stadium, it would probably make the most sense to replace the Grandstand with it.

[MacDaddy77]

the youth campus is already being build where have the arena I believe

[getbak]

The Youth Campus is east of 5th St.

[Erick Estrada]

I could see keeping the dome around for Stampede events for CalgaryNEXT plan A, but for plan B I don't see the point in keeping the dome around with a new building next to it.

[MacDaddy77]

It will be needed for the Olympics so i'm sure it'll stay until at least they are finished

[MacDaddy77]

what if they put the new arena where the corral and the grain academy & museum currently is. for the exhibition space you lose build onto the NE side of BMO (between BMO and Cowboys) to repalce that footage. Someone may have mocked it up but if not can it be shown? I think this would be ideal

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

what if they put the new arena where the corral and the grain academy & museum currently is. for the exhibition space you lose build onto the NE side of BMO (between BMO and Cowboys) to repalce that footage. Someone may have mocked it up but if not can it be shown? I think this would be ideal

What would be the point? There would be costs to adjust BMO centre to accommodate it. It seems cheaper to start with pretty much a blank slate at the parking lot location.

[MacDaddy77]

You'd keep the parking space revenue

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

You'd keep the parking space revenue

Flames owners aren't getting that, so that's not in their best interest. The only parking revenue they would get would be the parkade connected to the arena.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

It will be needed for the Olympics so i'm sure it'll stay until at least they are finished

What Olympics lol. Did you just see the NDP budget? Olympics are all but dead after that. No money for it.

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

What Olympics lol. Did you just see the NDP budget? Olympics are all but dead after that. No money for it.

that was very much a tongue in cheek comment!

[Senator Clay Davis]

2038 or 2042 might be viable lol.