02-26-2017, 06:50 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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That is a great haul for Hanzal, Wild overpayed.
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02-26-2017, 06:54 PM
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That's way too much for Hanzal and White, but it is a weak draft and Minnesota does have a pretty decent pool of prospects already. When you are as close as they are you go all in.
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02-26-2017, 07:05 PM
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Could easily look at it as 3 second round picks. A little steep but Minnesota feels like their window is going to be now with the likes of Granlund and Niederreiter needing major raises from their 2nd contracts after this year.
Man I have no idea how they're going to pay for those guys when they're up against the cap already with no major contracts coming off until 2018-2019.
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02-26-2017, 07:13 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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I'm not a huge Chayka fan but I think he did pretty good here.
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Seriously. Fleeced the wild.
But I guess the Wild are going for it this year. Not often that Minnesota is top dog.
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02-26-2017, 07:31 PM
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Yeah this is Minnesota's "once in 20 years" type year. They've gotta go for it. That fan base wild deserve it too.
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02-26-2017, 07:39 PM
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Great pickup for the Wild. They are rightly going all in.
A lot of picks to pay, but unless the Yotes can actually turn some of them into players, it's just a big pile of majic beans at this point.
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02-26-2017, 07:42 PM
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Looking at the list of UFA forwards, Hanzal is the best centre by far. Not much of a list at all for that specific position. When you see that Arizona is the only one with a quality centre and they know it, it's not unreasonable to see that Minnesota agreed to it. There's no plan B.
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02-26-2017, 08:16 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Think this is the first time I ever heard a GM admit this:
Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski
WIld GM Fletcher says trade was to help Minnesota but also to keep Hanzel away from rival teams in West.
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02-26-2017, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Think this is the first time I ever heard a GM admit this:
Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski
WIld GM Fletcher says trade was to help Minnesota but also to keep Hanzel away from rival teams in West.
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I still think this played a factor in the Bishop trade as well...although the small return the Lightning got from LA probably speaks to that not being the case.
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02-26-2017, 08:24 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
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Steep price for Hanzal.
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02-26-2017, 08:24 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Also another thing you don't hear often from GMs. Chayka admitting he was able to squeeze out a bit more because they didn't want to include prospects.
Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
Coyotes GM John Chayka: Wild "were willing to just pay a bit of an excess in terms of the picks side of things" for Hanzal over prospects.
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02-26-2017, 08:27 PM
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Hopefully this blows up in Minnesota's face.
Ever since that shameful game where they played like cowards and injured Johnny, they and their fans can eat ____ sandwiches. Hopefully they will choke and lose all those picks for nothing.
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02-26-2017, 08:28 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
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Originally Posted by Young_Guns
So I take it this drives up the price for Landeskog and Duchene?
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Probably pricing them out of the market.
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02-26-2017, 08:35 PM
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nvm.
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02-26-2017, 08:38 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
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Originally Posted by t0rrent98
Shane Doan unhappy with Hanzal trade.
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Has someone explained to him yet that the 'Yotes are out of the playoff picture?
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02-26-2017, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Probably pricing them out of the market.
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Maybe not. If Sakic's ask is still the same, then it could be considered good value now, relative to what Hanzal returned.
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02-26-2017, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJim
This is the thing with draft picks and the value fans put on them. The reality is that they are such a crap shoot. It's a good return for AZ, but I agree this makes them worse for the foreseeable future (yet again), unless they turn some of these picks into tangible players.
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Yeah, but how much worse can they actually get this season? They've pretty much hit rock bottom, with Colorado playing the part of the rock. And Hanzal was going to walk after that anyways.
For 2017-18, this trade won't affect them at all.
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02-26-2017, 11:17 PM
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Hanzal is overrated and I am glad the Flames didn't try to trade for him. Minnesota I thought gave up a lot for him.
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02-27-2017, 12:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduril
Could easily look at it as 3 second round picks. A little steep but Minnesota feels like their window is going to be now with the likes of Granlund and Niederreiter needing major raises from their 2nd contracts after this year.
Man I have no idea how they're going to pay for those guys when they're up against the cap already with no major contracts coming off until 2018-2019.
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Suter, Parise and Staal are all 32. Koivu is 33. Pominville is 34. Dubnyk is playing at Carey Price levels.
They have no choice. they've got to go for it this year or it's never going to happen. Good luck to them, that market deserves a playoff run.
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02-27-2017, 12:40 AM
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Dislike this trade - Wild improved I think. Hanzal is a really good defensive center with size, and it makes matching up against them a bit more difficult now for the Flames. It isn't something that 'puts them over the top', but it is a really nice add that allows Boudreau the ability to line-match much more effectively now.
I was hoping Hanzal was going out east. Really dislike him going to the Wild.
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