[Trade] Patrick Eaves traded to Anaheim for Second Round Pick

[Beninho]

Ya I'm fine with keeping our second, didn't want Eaves at all. Eaves just screams Ducks, hopefully he helps them stomp the Kings.

[sureLoss]

Corey Masisak @cmasisak22

7/2016: Patrick Eaves = 99 goals in 545 NHL games, been waived twice, gets cheap 1-year deal. 2/2017: Traded for possibly a 1st round pick

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Corey Masisak @cmasisak22

7/2016: Patrick Eaves = 99 goals in 545 NHL games, been waived twice, gets cheap 1-year deal. 2/2017: Traded for possibly a 1st round pick

that pretty much sums it all up...and I would probably have a few goals on the Dallas PP

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I am curious as to learn why not? A team in the playoff race.. why would you not pay a 2nd rounder for a 21 goal scorer.

Because....

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Corey Masisak @cmasisak22

7/2016: Patrick Eaves = 99 goals in 545 NHL games, been waived twice, gets cheap 1-year deal. 2/2017: Traded for possibly a 1st round pick

And the Flames can't afford to spend 2nd rounders on guys like that, they need to save their 2nd rounders for when they include them with an even more valuable piece to get an ultra valuable piece in return.

The more you deal 2nds for Eaves, the less Dougie Hamilton deals you can make, and the Flames desperately need more Dougie Hamilton level returns if they want to compete while Monahan is still scoring goals.

[sureLoss]

There was definitely a bidding war here... TSN reported last night 10-12 teams were in on Eaves

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by dino7c

because the Flames aren't really a cup contender

I don't know, I like to think if you make the playoffs, there are a few favourites but anything can happen. As for the Flames, why not go for it all this year? I mean you don't have to give up your entire future, but a second round pick is not that big of a deal.

Especially since the last time the Flames drafted an impactful 2nd rounder (which also has an *) was in 2000. Unless you want to count Markus Granlund...

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Because....


And the Flames can't afford to spend 2nd rounders on guys like that, they need to save their 2nd rounders for when they include them with an even more valuable piece to get an ultra valuable piece in return.

The more you deal 2nds for Eaves, the less Dougie Hamilton deals you can make, and the Flames desperately need more Dougie Hamilton level returns if they want to compete while Monahan is still scoring goals.

Agreed, if the 2nd round pick isn't helping bring another young player back or a good player who has term I'm not at all interested. Eaves has all the signs that he is a one year wonder, no way do I invest in that.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Because....


And the Flames can't afford to spend 2nd rounders on guys like that, they need to save their 2nd rounders for when they include them with an even more valuable piece to get an ultra valuable piece in return.

The more you deal 2nds for Eaves, the less Dougie Hamilton deals you can make, and the Flames desperately need more Dougie Hamilton level returns if they want to compete while Monahan is still scoring goals.

That is a valid point and I will agree to that. The second round pick can be used as a chip for future deals but personally, I have very little faith that the 2nd round pick will become anything good if they simply use it for the draft.

[dino7c]

are we really gonna do this on every trade, signing, and every coach hire?

Remember how shrewd the Habs were and how dumb the Flames were

hows that working out?

[polak]

Okay maybe Eaves was the wrong guy (I just knew he was scoring at a high level this year) but our 2nd should totally be in play.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I don't know, I like to think if you make the playoffs, there are a few favourites but anything can happen. As for the Flames, why not go for it all this year? I mean you don't have to give up your entire future, but a second round pick is not that big of a deal.

Especially since the last time the Flames drafted an impactful 2nd rounder (which also has an *) was in 2000. Unless you want to count Markus Granlund...

That's because they blew them all on marginal rentals like Eaves.

You can't succeed in this league without picks.

I'm optimistic about how far the Flames can go this year. They match up well against everyone but San Jose imo. But it's not time to buy with good assets yet. It's still building time.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by polak

Okay maybe Eaves was the wrong guy (I just knew he was scoring at a high level this year) but our 2nd should totally be in play.

not for a rental

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Corey Masisak @cmasisak22

7/2016: Patrick Eaves = 99 goals in 545 NHL games, been waived twice, gets cheap 1-year deal. 2/2017: Traded for possibly a 1st round pick

You called it in the iggy thread. Must have been quite the market for him to warrant an early deal with a conditional 1st.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by dino7c

are we really gonna do this on every trade, signing, and every coach hire?

Remember how shrewd the Habs were and how dumb the Flames were

hows that working out?

Are you talking about Julien? The guy who has like 3 games under his belt with the Habs.. If that is who you are talking about, it's a very small sample size.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by keenan87

That is a valid point and I will agree to that. The second round pick can be used as a chip for future deals but personally, I have very little faith that the 2nd round pick will become anything good if they simply use it for the draft.

So you think none of Parsons, Dube, Andersson, or Kylington will amount to anything?

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by keenan87

That is a valid point and I will agree to that. The second round pick can be used as a chip for future deals but personally, I have very little faith that the 2nd round pick will become anything good if they simply use it for the draft.

You don't give up assets like a 2nd rounder when you are a young playoff bubble team. You conserve those assets, Ducks are in win now mode while they have some decent prospects in their farm which allows them to take a gamble on Eaves and possibly losing their first. Great deal for Dallas, ok deal for Anaheim but if they crash out in the conference finals it's a terrible deal. A second round pick in a draft where there is not much separating late first rounders and 3-4th rounders is valuable. Scout well and that pick could easily turn out to be a solid player, every year it happens. Flames are in no place to dish out first and seconds for veteran players who not will be in our future plans.

[N-E-B]

The list of available forwards shrinks. Burrows on the Flames slightly more likely.



I kid.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

The list of available forwards shrinks. Burrows on the Flames slightly more likely.



I kid.

Stop, I don't want to get sick. And we all should be happy Tre isn't dumb enough to give away a second for Eaves

[Trojan97]

Man, what a great trade for Dallas. To sign Eaves to a 1-yr deal for next to nothing in the summer and then turn him into a potential first rounder eight months later is a fantastic job by Nill.

Seems like a win-win for both sides.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Robbob

So you think none of Parsons, Dube, Andersson, or Kylington will amount to anything?

Honestly, I don't know. Maybe they will or maybe they won't. However, this same type of hype I have seen before though... Irving, Brossoit, Gillies, Wotherspoon was supposed to replace Regehr.

I hope they amount to something but I have learned not to put much stock into how a prospect is doing in the NHL. Fans love to overhype their own prospects so I would rather wait and see how these players do in the NHL. Too many disappointments over the past few years (remember when Poirier was going to be something "special")