View Poll Results: Should the Flames add Iginla if the cost is reasonable?
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02-24-2017, 10:23 AM
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#141
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Crash and Bang Winger
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This may get a little touchy-feely - but I wouldn't look too much at Iginla's stats this year when gauging his worth. He had 22G, 25A - 47P last year. The entire Avalanche team has been an absolute tire fire, and that must be completely demoralizing for a guy like Iginla to play in. The Avalanche are on track to get ~49 points - how do you have any desire to play the game in what may be your last year?
We know that his desire to win is great - he has unparalleled will and passion to play the game competitively. I wouldn't discount the impact that would have on some of the players on the team, driving towards a higher compete level. Also if we know anything about Iginla - he's a finisher. We saw a classic Iginla goal against the Avalanche this year too. His current linemates are Grigorenko and Mitchell - seriously? The team is lacking from a severe lack of finish (think: Chiasson, Brouwer). It's also suffering from an unusually low shooting percentage. We need goal scoring.
I think it is obvious that we aren't going to get vintage Iginla - but he still may fill a real need and potentially bring many intangibles. Even on the Avalanche, his teammates are still rooting for him because they know how serious his drive is.
Plus the story and nostalgia is too strong. Hey - if we're not going to win the Stanley Cup this year (which seems like the consensus around here), what's the harm?
Regardless of if Iginla comes here or not - I'd like to see him have success somewhere. It seems like a pity to see his career end on such a down note.
Last edited by Isikiz; 02-24-2017 at 10:38 AM.
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02-24-2017, 10:26 AM
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#142
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First Line Centre
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I don't want Iggy to come here. Not because I don't like Iggy or I think he would harm the team, but because he deserves better. The Flames are a marginal playoff team who would be an underdog in all their playoff series. Iggy deserves a cup favorite.
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02-24-2017, 10:30 AM
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#143
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
I don't want Iggy to come here. Not because I don't like Iggy or I think he would harm the team, but because he deserves better. The Flames are a marginal playoff team who would be an underdog in all their playoff series. Iggy deserves a cup favorite.
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Exactly. For the sake of him winning a cup, I'd rather him go anywhere else (except van or edm obv.)
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02-24-2017, 10:32 AM
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#144
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Hard no.
This team has a new positive culture and the last thing I want to do is have the distraction of Iggy coming "home" and taking away from the task at hand.
Also, if I'm a young guy trying to get ice time and I feel can contribute more than Iggy, but Iggy gets preferential treatment based on his career resume, that can be a disruption to my development.
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02-24-2017, 10:33 AM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
I don't want Iggy to come here. Not because I don't like Iggy or I think he would harm the team, but because he deserves better. The Flames are a marginal playoff team who would be an underdog in all their playoff series. Iggy deserves a cup favorite.
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The Flames were an underdog in all their playoff series the last time he dragged them to a final.
The Flames obviously wouldn't be favorites but if San Jose could choke against someone else I think the Flames have just as good of a shot as anyone to make it to the cup finals out of the west.
Iginla today is exactly the player that Brouwer was sold as when he was acquired. The Flames still need that player. Iggy would be a meaningful upgrade to this lineup even if he wasn't a franchise legend.
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02-24-2017, 10:38 AM
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#146
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by smiggy77
(except van or edm obv.)
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Personally, I'd restrict it to any other Canadian team. Imagining him wearing a Habs jersey makes me puke. Not the eye-watering projectile puke I would get from him in Edmonton or Vancouver, but puke nonetheless.
The only US-based team I would never want to see him join is Tampa.
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02-24-2017, 10:43 AM
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#147
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I think they should dump Wideman for Iginla straight up. Seems about right. May make sense. Perhaps retain a little salary.
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02-24-2017, 10:43 AM
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#148
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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I'm on the fence but i do think about this. Tell me if it's a legit intangible.
If Iginla was on the ice with Johnny, would he have any more room or more respect from the rest of the players in the league? Maybe less slashes and liberties? I don't think too many are scared of Iginla but at least they know he isn't putting up with it. And he must command some level of respect just based on his career and the fact that he's always been a stand up guy.
It's worth considering at a low cost. Don't underestimate the energy he could bring to this team. It would probably be short term anyway.
As for his numbers in Colorado, tough to blame the guy. At this point in his career the last thing he wants is to try and carry a team
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02-24-2017, 10:53 AM
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#149
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Put this vision in your head:
Game 3 at the Dome vs the Wild. 3-3 late in third. Rebound in front of the net. Dubnyk out of position. Chiasson takes a shot at the loose puck. Misses the open net and goes the other way for a goal. Flames lose.
Now swap in:
Game 3 at the Dome vs the Wild. 3-3 late in third. Rebound in front of the net. Dubnyk out of position. Iginla takes a shot at the loose puck. Puck is in the net. Flames win! Stadium goes crazy.
That's the only goal Iginla scores this playoffs, and the Flames eventually lose a 7 game series in the first round.
Worth a 5th round pick?
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02-24-2017, 10:54 AM
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#150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Iggy should go to San Jose. Would love to see him go on a deep run with the rest of the old guys on that team. It would be great to see that team win it all with a bunch of guys who are at the end of their careers (if the Flames don't win, obviously).
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02-24-2017, 11:23 AM
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#151
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Scoring Winger
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If there are no other takers for him (which I doubt), and the cost is cheap why not? I am sure Iginla would be happy to come back to Calgary and at least fight for a playoff spot, opposed to rotting in Colorado. If he plays 3rd/4th line minutes and helps on the PP, I would be happy. Folks need to remember, the playoffs are a different beast and you should probably take all the help you can get. He at the very least is a threat on the PP.
Last edited by Young_Guns; 02-24-2017 at 11:25 AM.
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02-24-2017, 11:23 AM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund
there is so much under estimating Iginla here. Dude is still a beast, dont sell him short.
who would you prefer ? Iggy or Hudler?
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You take the bigger player to the playoffs. You look back at the first game with the Ducks in the second round a couple of years ago. Flames were undersized. I think Hudler and a few others got hurt during that series. Over a series, the bigger team will wear the other out quickly.
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02-24-2017, 11:25 AM
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#153
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary Alberta
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Yes.
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02-24-2017, 11:29 AM
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#154
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Young_Guns
I am sure Iginla would be happy to come back to Calgary
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I'm not so sure about this.
He sold his house in Calgary immediately after the trade and it always seemed that since the trade he had a "it's time to move on" type of attitude with Calgary.
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02-24-2017, 11:31 AM
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#155
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm not so sure about this.
He sold his house in Calgary immediately after the trade.
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Because his off season home is in Kelowna and it was obvious he wasn't returning. The guy sold his house after he no longer worked here. It's pragmatic not indignation.
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02-24-2017, 11:37 AM
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#156
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Yeah why would someone keep their house if they're no longer living there? It's not like he had a super fancy house anyways that something similar couldn't be re-bought.
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02-24-2017, 11:38 AM
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#157
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Eb0la11
I think they should dump Wideman for Iginla straight up. Seems about right. May make sense. Perhaps retain a little salary.
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WHY would the Avs do this
lets be realistic
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02-24-2017, 11:39 AM
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#158
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm not so sure about this.
He sold his house in Calgary immediately after the trade and it always seemed that since the trade he had a "it's time to move on" type of attitude with Calgary.
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If you moved away from a city and weren't planning on being there anytime soon, would you keep a multi million dollar home in that city? He wants out of Colorado, its been known for a while. I am sure he would take any playoff team be it a cup favourite or a bubble team (if no cup favourite is interested), just to get out of Colorado at this point.
Last edited by Young_Guns; 02-24-2017 at 11:41 AM.
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02-24-2017, 11:40 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Why does Jarome need a Calgary house to play for the team from Mar-June, with half the time on the road?
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02-24-2017, 11:46 AM
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#160
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Hey, thanks for stopping in and bestowing us with your wisdom. From proclaiming it would be "stupid" for Treliving to consider it to informing everyone to the true likeliness of where he ends up and finally - how everyone here should feel about it.
It's always great to get informed, insider takes.
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You don't speak for the majority. You are going off on a rant because someone disagrees with your take. Iginla is useless now, he can't keep up to the play, plays no defence and if he came here for the powerplay it wouldn't be Brouwer off of it, it would be Versteeg because Iginla is never going to stand in front of the net.
They may as well bring Fleury back. I bet he can outskate Iggy today.
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