Trade Proposal: Fleury for Elliott

[Strange Brew]

Fleury would be a good option IMO. He should come cheap, if not almost free. Not great but could live with 2 years at his salary. It could wait until the off season though. Might be able to get a pick for Elliott.

[Poe969]

I think there's a better chance of Elliot + for Murray not Fleury.

[CSharp]

Makes no difference who you put in net. Outcome will almost be the same.

[Samonadreau]

Nm

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Fleury would be a good option IMO. He should come cheap, if not almost free.

He'll be especially cheap if he exercises his NMC and refuses to play for Calgary.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

He'll be especially cheap if he exercises his NMC and refuses to play for Calgary.

There is that. But you'd think he wouldn't be overly picky. He has to know very few teams are looking for a starter.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

There is that. But you'd think he wouldn't be overly picky. He has to know very few teams are looking for a starter.

That's not his problem. He isn't the one who has to worry about the Penguins' asset management. He can stay right where he is until they come up with a destination he actually wants to go to.

[djsFlames]

How about no?

[MarkGio]

I think this is a good play for the Flames. Despite Fleury being slightly overpaid, it won't be bad as Bishop in the off-season. And with the goalie equipment changes happening, I would prefer a flexible style goaltender, not a size depending one.

Besides, two-time cup winning goalie yeilds some confidence for a building team

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That's not his problem. He isn't the one who has to worry about the Penguins' asset management. He can stay right where he is until they come up with a destination he actually wants to go to.

I believe vast majority of athletes want to play where they are wanted. And not that many teams will be wanting a starting goalie. I could see him being open to Calgary.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I believe vast majority of athletes want to play where they are wanted. And not that many teams will be wanting a starting goalie. I could see him being open to Calgary.

I could see him preferring any U.S. team to Calgary, frankly. I doubt he would waive a trade here unless there was no other choice.

[d_phaneuf]

There's other teams that will need to move cheaper goalies with maybe less proven record but also not flowers term

[Itse]

Not an impossible idea, assuming retained salary or some other sweetener. But I don't see it making much of a difference either.

[tfi racing]

At this stage in Fleury's career,why would he even consider moving to the middle of nowhere to a frozen barren desert to play for what now appears to be a clown show team that will not have any real success for at least five more years? Given the choice of the Flames of today or ride the bench somewhere in a warm southern state,what would you choose?

[CliffFletcher]

These proposals are delusional. Rutherford wants an asset for Fleury, and someone (St. Louis, Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg) will offer something of value. He isn't a salary dump.

[Poe969]

He isn't a salary dump but other teams know that the pens are in a bad situation. The teams that need a goalie don't need one so bad that they can't wait until the off season. The pens have to get rid of Fleury before the expansion draft or they're going to lose Murray to LV. It's a game of chicken right now but other teams are fine waiting because they don't really "need" Fleury. Odds are that if Rutherford doesn't add a sweetner, other teams don't give anything of value or even take Fleury and the pens will be forced to buy him out in before the expansion draft and he becomes a UFA.

It's an odd situation because I don't think Fleury is a salary dump but the pens have to trade him. It's kind of a celery dump.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

As someone who is a huge Fleury fan, I don't see the upside for the Flames.

A goalie who may have the best tools in the NHL but gets in his own head far too often. I compare him to Cujo in the sense that he's been on the losing end of heartbreaking losses that ultimately weren't always his fault, but history keeps repeating itself.

He does have two cups; and came up huge in the first cup victory.

Fleury can steal a game, but he can also give it away.

He has experience, to help the young guys coming up, but I think it'd prefer someone with less tools but a better sense of self. Someone that may not be as good but doesn't get into their own heads. They might not seal the 2-1 game, but they also won't blow the 5-1 lead.

On the other hand, if you want someone in the dressing room and in the community that portrays themselves professionally and relaxed with fans and kids; there aren't many players that are better and more personable than Fleury. Traits that are difficult to find in professional sports.

Overall, I wouldn't be seeking him out.

That said, if MAF was a member of the Flames, I'll hang his Flames jersey on my wall right next to his junior jersey that I have.

[Darkknight]

Not sure on the specifics but would Korpisalo from Columbus have to be protected in the expansion draft?

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Darkknight

Not sure on the specifics but would Korpisalo from Columbus have to be protected in the expansion draft?

He would have to be protected as he is eligible to be selected by Vegas, but Bobrovsky has an NMC, so he'll most likely be picked up in the expansion draft unless Columbus decides to trade him which I could see happening.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

These proposals are delusional. Rutherford wants an asset for Fleury, and someone (St. Louis, Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg) will offer something of value. He isn't a salary dump.

Rutherford will not have many choices. The supply is high and the demand is low, therefore he likely won't get much in return and may in fact be forced to offer an incentive as most teams already have goaltenders or prospects that they won't want to give up for a couple seasons of Fleury.

St. Louis already has Jake Allen signed long term so they probably won't want to expose him nor do they have the cap space to accommodate $10 million worth of goldtenders if none are chosen. Dallas already has 2 expensive goaltenders on the books and unless Pittsburgh is willing to take an expensive goaltender back, I doubt they do because Rutherford has already been talking about shedding salary to try to re-sign RFAs and etc. if Winnipeg makes the trade for Fleury then they stand to lose Connor Hellebuyck. Carolina I could see as a viable option if Pittsburgh took Lack back. But as a budget team, is Carolina willing to have close to $10M in goaltenders on the books and do they even see Fleury as an upgrade over Cam Ward?

Too many question marks, not enough teams that can afford Fleury and too many teams that would stand to lose something significant for an overpaid goaltender. There is virtually no market and Rutherford is screwed if he has to buy him out at almost $8M spread over 4 years. Fleury holds all the cards in this situation.