2016 NFL Season

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Undefeated season with Trevor Siemian starting? They better hope they retain Wade Phillips or they won't even win 9 games next season.

He's certainly no Connor Cook, I'll give you that. Again the same point that so many seem to miss is that the bigger issue is the atrocious offensive line.

I'd be more than happy for the next coach to come in and draft a QB at #20 if they wanted to. Maybe trade Paxton Lynch for a few rolls of Kinisio tape and some moustache wax.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This is pretty accurate. Texans have won the worst division in football with putrid QB play now two years in a row so I beleive they are a very solid team except at most important position.

Even things out at the QB position and Texans are rightfully favored to win against Oakland at home.

It's an indictment of Texans management that they have failed to find a competent QB. Without a Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben etc. the championship window is awfully short. Likely wasted JJ's best years.

I corrected your post slightly as it's highly unlikely they manage to do that in any other division. The Raiders did sweep that division this season so there's no doubt they are the better team with Carr. Without I would definitely favor the Texans as they know how to win with bad QB play. The Raiders don't.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I think Kyle Shanahan is a pretty good candidate. Matt Ryan with his best season ever under Kyle, RGIII with his only good season under him, Kirk Cousins looked decent under him too. In a year like this where there are not many big hires out there to be made, Shanahan might be the best guy available. In fact with so few big hires out there, we might actually see fewer retreads this year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

He's certainly no Connor Cook, I'll give you that. Again the same point that so many seem to miss is that the bigger issue is the atrocious offensive line.

I'd be more than happy for the next coach to come in and draft a QB at #20 if they wanted to. Maybe trade Paxton Lynch for a few rolls of Kinisio tape and some moustache wax.

I know you are being facetious but I'm willing to bet most teams would rather have Cook. Heck the Raiders had to trade up to get him before the Cowboys as he's the guy they wanted over Dak Prescott.

I'm pretty sure Elway has plans on Paxton Lynch being the future starter maybe as early as next season so I doubt they use another 1st round pick on a QB. There are no quick fixes for offensive lines though as it's very expensive to plug those holes in free agency and it takes time to draft and develop linemen. They should be taking the best offensive lineman available at 20th for sure though.

[ResAlien]

Elway kind of sucks in the draft but has been amazing in FA. I'm sure with the 40 million in cap space they have next year they'll bring in some Oline talent. I doubt Wade's going anywhere regardless of the #spicyhotsportstakes that are going around regarding his contract. Denver should be back in the playoffs next year regardless of who the QB is.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I think Kyle Shanahan is a pretty good candidate. Matt Ryan with his best season ever under Kyle, RGIII with his only good season under him, Kirk Cousins looked decent under him too. In a year like this where there are not many big hires out there to be made, Shanahan might be the best guy available. In fact with so few big hires out there, we might actually see fewer retreads this year.

IMO they should hire Matt Patricia as the Broncos need help on offense. It's pretty common that when a big name OC or DC becomes a head coach the strength of their team usually becomes the side of the ball they didn't coordinate. Look at Del Rio in Oakland, Kubiak in Denver, Dan Quinn in Atlanta, Andy Reid in Kansas City, Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. The Giants hired McAdoo to be their head coach because the offense was lights out when he was coordinating. His first season the offense has been pretty mediocre and the defense has been lights out. Strange that it happens this way a lot and I think it may have to do a lot with the HC being hands off the position he has no experience and letting his coordinator handle things.

I really like what Patricia has done without a lot of big name talent on the defensive side of the ball and feel he would be a much better hire than say Josh McDaniels that bombed when given too much power in Denver.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I corrected your post slightly as it's highly unlikely they manage to do that in any other division. The Raiders did sweep that division this season so there's no doubt they are the better team with Carr. Without I would definitely favor the Texans as they know how to win with bad QB play. The Raiders don't.

I agree the Texans likely aren't winning any other division but their record against winning teams is not a total joke. They are playing a first place schedule.

Texans and Raiders met on a neutral site this year and Texans carried the play for much of the game until Carr led a ferocious comeback for the W. So would Raiders win on the road with Carr? I think Texans still have a chance in that scenario.

[Senator Clay Davis]

If you're Patricia or McDaniels, why not wait out Belichick? I suspect he walks away with Brady, so at most you're looking at 2-3 more years, and then taking over the NFL's best run franchise, possibly with Garoppolo ready to take over as a potential top QB. In the next 3 years, will there really be a better job than that? McDaniels or Patricia could leave for say Denver, do nothing in 3 years, get fired anyway, and then they're in the cycle of trying to get back into contention (in McDaniels case he's probably done as a HC candidate), instead of waiting for a near perfect situation. Will be interesting to see how they approach it.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Elway kind of sucks in the draft but has been amazing in FA. I'm sure with the 40 million in cap space they have next year they'll bring in some Oline talent. I doubt Wade's going anywhere regardless of the #spicyhotsportstakes that are going around regarding his contract. Denver should be back in the playoffs next year regardless of who the QB is.

Yeah, but he no longer has the draw that is Peyton Manning to make players want to come to Denver. Manning wasn't very good in his final season but had been putting up video game numbers prior to it. That got a lot of guys to come to Denver on the cheap.

This year he's got a 9 win team with a QB that people think you can win with. He's a sharp executive and the Bronco's do have a good league wide reputation. But I think he'll have to pay for the guys he does sign, there won't be no discounts to be had this year.

[troutman]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...rt_river_index

"For the longest time on Sunday, it looked like the Browns were going to lose by winning. But Cleveland came to it senses, thereby locking up next April's first overall pick in the draft. The Steelers played their JV squad and it still didn't matter, because the Browns did Browns-like things such as fumble inside the Pittsburgh 5-yard line to waste one drive and fumble away a long interception return just before crossing the Steelers goal line.

Whatever it takes, Brownies. Whatever it takes. And don't let Robert Griffin III's decent showing late this season dissuade you from drafting a first-round quarterback with one of your two No. 1's." - Don Banks

[calgarygeologist]

It sounds like Tyrod Taylor's career is done with Buffalo. I didn't watch a lot of Buffalo this year but I thought that Taylor was having a pretty decent season. I have him on my dynasty league team as a third/fourth QB and there were a few weeks where he had some really good points sitting on my bench. 17 TDs and 6 INTs this year is not great but I think they didn't focus on a strong pass game. 90 QB rating basically puts him in the middle of the qbs this season.

Jets should give him a chance.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

It sounds like Tyrod Taylor's career is done with Buffalo. I didn't watch a lot of Buffalo this year but I thought that Taylor was having a pretty decent season. I have him on my dynasty league team as a third/fourth QB and there were a few weeks where he had some really good points sitting on my bench. 17 TDs and 6 INTs this year is not great but I think they didn't focus on a strong pass game. 90 QB rating basically puts him in the middle of the qbs this season.

Jets should give him a chance.

The Texans might have won 12 games this year with Taylor caliber QB play.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Who exactly is Buffalo going to get that is better than Tyrod? Remember at best $17-18 million gets you Brock Osweiler, maybe Kirk Cousins. They aren't anywhere near high enough for a QB without reaching hard at the draft, and playing a Goff like rookie. Maybe they're the team to goes for Romo? But is Romo who is at least a 50% injury risk a true upgrade? 49ers are clearly the NFL's most dysfunctional organization, but the Bills are pretty close. I'd argue the Browns are less dysfunctional than the Bills.

[Erick Estrada]

Has it been confirmed the Bills are going to part ways with him? I imagine that's something they would decide after hiring a new head coach. I doubt any top coaching candidates are going to be interested in taking the job if EJ Manuel is atop the QB depth chart as you are being set up to fail. At least Taylor is good enough to keep your head above water.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Raiders are far more complete than Houston? Really? If you put Alex Smith on Houston they'd be the #2 seed right now. If you put Tom Brady on Houston they might be 15-1. Houston is a better team than the Raiders pretty much across the board. They've just had high school level QB play the last 3 years....which includes all winning records and two division titles. Houston is a good QB away from being SB contenders. Carr was pretty much the primary reason anyone was scared of the Raiders. Raiders are improving, but still have work to do especially on defense. Houston literally needs one player.

2 teams in the NFL won more games than the Raiders this season...They are a better team than Houston. Obviously losing Carr is a massive blow but seriously guy. Houston went 9-7 in their joke of a division and have no business hosting a playoff game

You don't go 12-4 solely because of a quarterback...give them some credit

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 teams in the NFL won more games than the Raiders this season...They are a better team than Houston. Obviously losing Carr is a massive blow but seriously guy. Houston went 9-7 in their joke of a division and have no business hosting a playoff game

You don't go 12-4 solely because of a quarterback...give them some credit

Serious question: How much NFL do you watch? A top QB is absolutely worth 4-6 wins a season. So yeah, without Carr, it is not even remotely a stretch to say the Raiders are no better than 7-9. That's 5 wins right there. It matters an absolute #### ton, there's a reason Goff and Wentz went #1 and #2 last year, even though purely on likely outcome they are both worth 2nd round picks. And they didn't just go #1 and #2, they had teams trading up to get them. But teams are desperate for QBs. Houston, again, go back and look at the list of their starting QBs I posted a bit back. Half of those QBs aren't even good backups. And they've won 9 games a year 3 years running.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Now, the Rams are not moving anywhere because KroenkeWorld is gonna probably host Super Bowls ever 4-5 years and is I think actually becoming the NFL media HQ, but they'll be totally ignored. What this should do is probably convince the Chargers they have no shot in hell of succeeding in LA. It really should be the Raiders in LA, that was the NFL's best chance of having a truly successful LA team. But yeah ending up in last place in your home market is pretty embarrassing for the Rams.

The honeymoon in LA was over about as fast as it takes a 4 a.m. wedding in Las Vegas to be annulled. Fans began not only avoiding the stadium, but also bypassing the Rams on television.

Most of their games were shown in LA by Fox, as was the case in St. Louis when they were here. And according to Nielsen, which tracks viewership, Fox’s rating for NFL games declined in Los Angeles this season over last season’s figure. That is astounding, as fans usually flock to the local team’s telecasts and provide a big boost to local ratings.

Nielsen reports that 8 percent of homes in the LA market tuned in to Fox’s NFL telecasts this season — down from 8.3 percent in 2015, when the Rams were in St. Louis. These figures are for all NFL games shown on Fox, not just those of the Rams. Officials of that network were not available for comment.

Fox carried 12 Rams games this season in LA, and those averaged an 8.3 rating. In St. Louis the previous season, where the team still was playing, Fox affiliate KTVI (Channel 2) averaged a 19.7 rating for its 12 Rams telecasts.

CBS has one Rams telecast in Los Angeles this season and its rating for the season there was down 4 percent over 2015.

Perhaps the most telling statistic: Not only were there numerous times this season that the Rams’ contest wasn’t even the top-rated NFL game of the week in LA, the Rams were last in the ratings the final two weeks of the season. They were beaten by the three other games shown on Christmas weekend and by the four other contests on New Year’s Day. Included in that group are three matchups that began at 10 a.m. local time — the Rams began in the more attractive 1:25 p.m. slot in both instances.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/footb...180d34ebc.html

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 teams in the NFL won more games than the Raiders this season...They are a better team than Houston. Obviously losing Carr is a massive blow but seriously guy. Houston went 9-7 in their joke of a division and have no business hosting a playoff game

You don't go 12-4 solely because of a quarterback...give them some credit

Did you watch Houston play the Raiders this year? Yeah Raiders are more than just a QB but beating Texans on the road is not a layup. Texans did actually beat a few teams with winning records. Losing Carr and dropping to 3rd string is probably worth 10 points against the spread.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 teams in the NFL won more games than the Raiders this season...They are a better team than Houston. Obviously losing Carr is a massive blow but seriously guy. Houston went 9-7 in their joke of a division and have no business hosting a playoff game

You don't go 12-4 solely because of a quarterback...give them some credit

Donald Penn is now out. Missing the first game of his career. Seriously what did the Raiders do to deserve this?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Now, the Rams are not moving anywhere because KroenkeWorld is gonna probably host Super Bowls ever 4-5 years and is I think actually becoming the NFL media HQ, but they'll be totally ignored. What this should do is probably convince the Chargers they have no shot in hell of succeeding in LA. It really should be the Raiders in LA, that was the NFL's best chance of having a truly successful LA team. But yeah ending up in last place in your home market is pretty embarrassing for the Rams.



http://www.stltoday.com/sports/footb...180d34ebc.html

Ha ha ha ha. Serves them right and especially Jerry Jones as he was the one that pulled the last minute change to get the Rams the deal as it was going to be Oakland and San Diego which would have been much better for the league.