[Signing] Hawks sign Panarin to an extension (Update: Friedman: 2 years, 6 M per).

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Thing is, as others have pointed out, the contract between the Blackhawks and Hossa is not affected. What is affected is the cap hit of that contract, which is a matter determined by the CBA – which the league, the PA, and every individual team have accepted. Since there is no breach of contract, it seems to me that there would be no grounds for a suit on the basis of that contract.

Is not the CBA, itself, a contract? I don't think that a clause that penalizes a prior condition would stand a challenge.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

You guys realize this applies equally to Luongo and the Canucks, right? When that trade got made and everyone realized that recapture was retroactive to deals signed pre-CBA there was much rejoicing.

Yes, it has retroactive effect.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

Is not the CBA, itself, a contract? I don't think that a clause that penalizes a prior condition would stand a challenge.

It's a contract, which is the point. You can always amend or affect prior contracts in a new one.

[sureLoss]

Yeah I don't understand how this is in debate at all.

Contracts can be modified at any time, even retroactively if all the parties in the contract agree to it.

You would think if there was any legal standing to fight such a thing, the players would have tried it when all their salaries were rolled back by 5% in the 2005 CBA. But of course they couldn't because as a union they agreed to accept the rollback.

[thefoss1957]

of course, this is all theoretical, and, even at age 37, Hossa is leading this team in Goals (tied with Anisimov)...I don't think that Hossa would be the one that's moved, nor, do I foresee his retirement as imminent. I think that, for the 'Hawks, a package of youngsters at $650 to $900K per contract, for "future considerations" as a deal to Vegas to take Kruger's $3M, in the draft is the likely route to cap relief. Depending on how many youngsters get thrown in, out of the pool of Kempny, TVR, Motte, Hinostroza, Schmaltz, Kero, Forsling, will be anywhere from about $4M up in relief...again, also, $2.2M "dead" cap space with Rundblad and Scuderi also comes off the books.