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			Can anyone photoshop a picture of Katz's head on Gretzky's body.  
 
"The Great Katzky."   
 
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			12-16-2016, 09:39 AM
			
			
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			Vancouvers one of the most beautiful citys on earth. Same cant be said for the people living there though
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 10:09 AM
			
			
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				From one Edmontonian to another, you better find something to like pretty quick on a daily basis, otherwise you're going to be tragically depressed in this city haha. 
			
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			12-16-2016, 10:25 AM
			
			
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				Vancouvers one of the most beautiful citys on earth. Same cant be said for the people living there though 
			
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I have never understood how people think this.  I can think of lots of prettier cities.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-16-2016, 10:53 AM
			
			
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				I have never understood how people think this. I can think of lots of prettier cities. 
			
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But but ... Coast! and . . . Mountains!! and . . . Stanley Park! . . . and, Granville Island? haha . . . 
   
 In all seriousness, I don't deny it's a pretty city, but pretty is in the eye of the beholder. I find other urban metropolis' way more pretty/interesting than Vancouver. I think many would agree.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 11:15 AM
			
			
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			It's just terrible design to build something that doesn't fit the surroundings.  Marble and sleek lines in a prairie setting seems dumb.  Doesn't have to be hay bails but something a little more in keeping.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-16-2016, 11:18 AM
			
			
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				It's just terrible design to build something that doesn't fit the surroundings.  Marble and sleek lines in a prairie setting seems dumb.  Doesn't have to be hay bails but something a little more in keeping. 
			
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You want them to build a giant dumpster with old tires for columns?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 11:22 AM
			
			
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				Vancouvers one of the most beautiful citys on earth. Same cant be said for the people living there though 
			
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Vancouver is a remarkably unbeautiful city redeemed by one of the most spectacularly beautiful natural settings on earth. The only strikingly beautiful area in the city itself is Stanley Park, and that's only because they didn't build on it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-16-2016, 11:28 AM
			
			
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				I have never understood how people think this.  I can think of lots of prettier cities. 
			
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Can you name 5 cities in North America that are nicer than Vancouver?
 
It's a beautiful place with lots to do and amazing cuisine, but as another poster previously mentioned I would never want to live there because of the people.
 
The hypocrisy and pretentiousness around that city is palpable. The entitled attitude of Canuck fans starts to make a lot of sense the more time you spend in Van. Gives San Francisco a run for their money.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 11:52 AM
			
			
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				Vancouver is a remarkably unbeautiful city redeemed by one of the most spectacularly beautiful natural settings on earth. The only strikingly beautiful area in the city itself is Stanley Park, and that's only because they didn't build on it. 
			
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The residential area just over the bridge from downtown is pretty nice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 12:04 PM
			
			
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				Can anyone photoshop a picture of Katz's head on Gretzky's body.  
 
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More like "The Grate One".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Can you name 5 cities in North America that are nicer than Vancouver? 
 
It's a beautiful place with lots to do and amazing cuisine, but as another poster previously mentioned I would never want to live there because of the people. 
 
The hypocrisy and pretentiousness around that city is palpable. The entitled attitude of Canuck fans starts to make a lot of sense the more time you spend in Van. Gives San Francisco a run for their money. 
			
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I can name 5 in California alone.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 12:53 PM
			
			
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			12-16-2016, 12:53 PM
			
			
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				Can you name 5 cities in North America that are nicer than Vancouver? 
 
It's a beautiful place with lots to do and amazing cuisine, but as another poster previously mentioned I would never want to live there because of the people. 
 
The hypocrisy and pretentiousness around that city is palpable. The entitled attitude of Canuck fans starts to make a lot of sense the more time you spend in Van. Gives San Francisco a run for their money. 
			
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How about I name some "on earth"
 
Cape Town 
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			12-16-2016, 12:58 PM
			
			
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				Are the oilers a one man team?  
 
			
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Does the rank without McDavid also take out the best player on each team? Because if not, like most advanced stats, this is pretty useless.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 01:02 PM
			
			
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			I think it just shows that when McDavid is on the ice - the Oilers as a team are elite. 
 
When McDavid is off the ice the Oilers as a team are a lottery team. 
 
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			12-16-2016, 02:30 PM
			
			
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			I don't think anyone needed stats to show that. Anyone that has watched any games they have played can see they still are not a well built team.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 02:34 PM
			
			
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				Can you name 5 cities in North America that are nicer than Vancouver?
  
			
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So subjective.  Of places I've been (and obviously I haven't been everywhere in each city):
 
Quebec City 
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Montreal (well Old Montreal anyway) 
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			12-16-2016, 02:37 PM
			
			
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				I think it just shows that when McDavid is on the ice - the Oilers as a team are elite. 
 
When McDavid is off the ice the Oilers as a team are a lottery team. 
 
Not sure you need advanced stats to know that though. 
			
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I'm not sure it shows "elite" with McDavid.  Elite offensively perhaps, still decidedly below average defensively.
 
No question that without McD though, the team is a lottery team and quite likely worst overall yet again.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2016, 02:38 PM
			
			
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				It's just terrible design to build something that doesn't fit the surroundings.  Marble and sleek lines in a prairie setting seems dumb.  Doesn't have to be hay bails but something a little more in keeping. 
			
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More in keeping with Edmonton?
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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