PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I don't really think it's out of line to address the recount publicly, and twitter's the method he uses for that. Had he got in front of a camera and made a brief statement, it would have the same weight but probably wouldn't be seen by as many people. I'm not sure why people seem to be upset by the fact that he uses twitter at all. The content of the tweets wasn't crazy, by his standards.

He could have shot a brief and potentially dignified video and tweeted that out. Or have his staff write an actual statement and use Twitter to disseminate it.

The barrage just comes across as unprofessional, unprepared ranting.

I don't have a problem with Twitter or Trump using it to communicate, but this is a serious issue and he now has a serious job, and responding to it with rapid-fire bitching in 140 characters or less just isn't a proper response.

[MoneyGuy]

Maybe the same guy who writes Trudeau's statements also does Trump's tweets.

[photon]

Or he could have mentioned it during a press conference.. oh right he doesn't do those anymore.

Originally Posted by Delgar

His long twitter response is simply repeating what Clinton already said. I don't see how there's anything wrong with that, that's pretty tame.

It's tame, it's just a big false equivalence. The recounts aren't an attempt to get Clinton elected; Stein was hysterically against Clinton during the campaign portraying her as a worse option than Trump.

Stein says the recount is to validate the integrity of the election results, which in itself isn't a bad idea given the amount of external intervention that went on (which should still be huge news but few actually seem to care about which itself should be news). It also puts Stein in the spotlight at no cost or risk to her. That the amount being asked keeps going up does look shady, so there might be some truth to the accusation that she's just fundraising but I've also read that keeping the money raised for future campaigns is against FEC rules but I haven't dug far into that so I'm not sure about that.

Trump repeating Clinton's words is him thinking or trying to make others think the situations (what he said during the campaign and what Clinton said about that) are the same and they aren't.

[photon]

Conway's been publicly criticizing Romney being considered, kind of weird that she has to try and influence the decision through the media. She did say previously though that that's how she sometimes has to communicate to Trump. Please ignore this and pick Romney, so much better than Gingrich.

Conway, a top Donald Trump adviser, has made it clear she does not favor Romney for the job.

Conway blasted Romney on Sunday for comments he has made about Trump during the presidential campaign and questioned if he would be a loyal secretary of State.

"I'm all for party unity, but I'm not sure we have to pay for that with the secretary of State position," Conway said on CNN's "State of the Union."

Conway said she has received feedback from those who would feel "betrayed" if Trump nominated someone who was so vehemently opposed to his campaign.

"I'm just saying, we don't even know if Mitt Romney voted for Donald Trump," she said.

"I think there are concerns that those of us that are loyal have, and we want a secretary of State who's loyal to the president."

Conway also questioned Romney's qualifications.

"Gov. Romney, in the last four years, has he been around the globe doing something on behalf of the United States of which we're unaware?" Conway asked.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-extraordinary

EDIT: Or is considering Romney and doing all this just a way to get revenge against Romney?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I don't have a problem with Twitter or Trump using it to communicate, but this is a serious issue and he now has a serious job, and responding to it with rapid-fire bitching in 140 characters or less just isn't a proper response.

I get where you're coming from, and I think I'd prefer if he did things the way you're suggesting. But this is sort of how he managed to get people to like them, they think he's authentic because he just says things without filtering them through the machinery that leads to carefully worded statements and carefully drafted press releases by some communications person. It makes people think he's talking to them directly, which some people take as a form of honesty even if the content of the tweets is complete BS.

I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't just keep doing this throughout his Presidency.

[TorqueDog]

Genuinely asking here: If the recount were to result in a change of electoral college votes such that Clinton would be declared the actual winner, does her concession even count / matter?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I can't imagine that it would, no.

[Blaster86]

What are the chances something comes of these recounts?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

What are the chances something comes of these recounts?

I'm told it's to make sure the electoral system is fair not to overturn anything.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

What are the chances something comes of these recounts?

Probably impossible to put a percentage on it, but very small. If it was just one state, it might be a different story, but if that had been the case the recount probably would've been triggered shortly after the election.

[RougeUnderoos]

Well he wasn't done. Ha ha. Jesus.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

So I guess he's for the recount? If you care about the country, and believe that there was widespread irregularities, you have to be. Period. You can't believe that millions of people committed voter fraud, and not want to look into it. I wonder if his cooperation will make the whole thing go smoother.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Probably impossible to put a percentage on it, but very small. If it was just one state, it might be a different story, but if that had been the case the recount probably would've been triggered shortly after the election.

So Jill Stein just getting her self a bunch of publicity it is then.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Genuinely asking here: If the recount were to result in a change of electoral college votes such that Clinton would be declared the actual winner, does her concession even count / matter?

Makes no legal difference what so ever

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Well he wasn't done. Ha ha. Jesus.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

Now that's the Trump I would expect. The stuff this morning was nothing. This is Trumpiness at its best.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Well he wasn't done. Ha ha. Jesus.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.

And of course he says this without a single shred of evidence to back it up, which is classic Trump. What a f'n moron.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

What are the chances something comes of these recounts?

I think it was one of the lawyers from Clinton's campaign that any of the 3 recounts would require a bigger change in tally than has ever happened in history to change the result in that state. So unless there actually was some outside interference that they discover then pretty much zero.

So yeah just publicity for Stein.

If they do the Penn. recount I read somewhere that some hope that the publicity of a recount would draw attention to the 1980's era voting machines used there to get them replaced or eliminate them entirely, so maybe some good can come out of a recount.

EDIT: More: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ction-results/

[photon]

I remember reading about this claim about illegals voting a while ago, that's probably where Trump (who only knows what's on the Internet according to himself) got the claim.

The idea that so many people voted illegally? Trump didn’t make it up. Somebody else did.
The claim appears to have originated with Gregg Phillips, who identifies himself online as a resident of Austin, Texas, and the founder of an app for reporting voter fraud. A few days after the election, he tweeted that more than 3 million people had voted illegally, citing an “analysis” that he hasn’t released:

http://qz.com/846551/donald-trump-ed...news-movement/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by photon

So unless there actually was some outside interference that they discover then pretty much zero.

I think that is what she is doing. She is hoping that some shenanigans are exposed and it brings the whole thing into question.

[photon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think that is what she is doing. She is hoping that some shenanigans are exposed and it brings the whole thing into question.

To what end though? It's not like Stein stands to gain if the results are thrown into question.

Though calling the whole thing into question is exactly what Trump is doing anyway lol... His brilliant response to people wanting to verify the integrity of the election is to state as fact the lack of integrity of the election.

[photon]

Trump offered the education secretary job to Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr.?!? Dodged a howitzer shell...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/df9a1...-secretary-job