I wouldn't worry, the differences between democrats and republicans are superficial in nature. Only the special interests that've backed the wrong horse need be concerned. If Trump wins we will see a fair bit of bluster and perhaps some gestures to appease the average moron in the U.S. - say a symbolic trade renegotiation with Mexico - but then things will continue as usual. Truly functioning democracy hasn't existed in the United States for a long time.
difference is they don't usually hand over power to the average moron, Bush Jnr was the closest and he was at least run by Chaney.
I suppose some Americans could make the case that they are supporting Trump for (misguided) political reasons. A Canadian supporting Trump is not a political opinion, it is a statement of intolerance and hate. I felt bad for Millions and thought he got shafted with the whole c*cksucker thing, but now that he has revealed his true colours, I have no use for him whatsoever.
I dislike trump as much as the next guy but you using a hate term against Millions isn't exactly taking the high road
I wouldn't worry, the differences between democrats and republicans are superficial in nature. Only the special interests that've backed the wrong horse need be concerned. If Trump wins we will see a fair bit of bluster and perhaps some gestures to appease the average moron in the U.S. - say a symbolic trade renegotiation with Mexico - but then things will continue as usual. Truly functioning democracy hasn't existed in the United States for a long time.
If Trump is elected, I fear others will copy his divisiveness to gain power, not just in the US, but in Canada as well. The intolerance that is being spouted by Trump and some of his delegates & supporters is absolutely frightening.
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If Trump is elected, I fear others will copy his divisiveness to gain power, not just in the US, but in Canada as well. The intolerance that is being spouted by Trump and some of his delegates & supporters is absolutely frightening.
One of our city councillors (Airdrie) is completely disgusting. He posts the most heinous, misogynistic crap. And, he's a frigging bullying little toady of a man. If he was in any other job/position, his facebook posts alone would get him shown the door. He is OBSESSED with American politics and posts not only the nastiness above but a ton of conspiracy theory bull####. Having seen him in action, in person, I find him slightly unhinged. He parrots a lot of the BS you see coming out of the US. 1 more year of his crap and hopefully he gets turfed in the next municipal election. Short of a criminal act, that's the only way we can get rid of his ass.
If Trump is elected, I fear others will copy his divisiveness to gain power, not just in the US, but in Canada as well. The intolerance that is being spouted by Trump and some of his delegates & supporters is absolutely frightening.
The conditions here don't really exist for something like that to happen. We have the most highly educated population in the world and a political system that functions well with minimal corruption. We have an immigration system that supports economic growth and a high degree of social mobility. The reason Trump is popular in the states is because people have lost trust in what is a truly rotten system of government to the point where they no longer respect the institution. The fact that Trump and Clinton are the best candidates produced by the U.S. political process is an indictment of the system itself.
I'd hope to see Americans view this as a wake up call that the two party system needs reform but I doubt that will happen.
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A lot has been said about why Trump is having so much support, but I found this an interesting "theory"...it basically points out that the US is having some sort of identity crisis; they are not a "white Christian society" anymore and they don't really know what they are...and as a result, some people long to go back to the times when they knew their identity
yes do people want the America of the 1950s or the America of the 2020s? That is essentially this election.
Boomers/rural folks are America first, America the great, we must protect our borders!
Millenials/urban folks? Borders? Where we're going we don't need borders.
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I think a lot of people just want an America where they can work reliably in a job they understand. Whether it's 1950 or 2020. A lot of people got left behind and they're scared. Fear doesn't always lead to rationality and not everyone can just pack up and move somewhere for another job when the local factory goes belly up.
I feel bad for so many of these hopeless people that got conned by this guy and then sucked into the vortex of #### that is his campaign.
I also find it insanely ironic though that they look for salvation in the Republican Party because "Bible".
I think a lot of people just want an America where they can work reliably in a job they understand. Whether it's 1950 or 2020. A lot of people got left behind and they're scared. Fear doesn't always lead to rationality and not everyone can just pack up and move somewhere for another job when the local factory goes belly up.
I feel bad for so many of these hopeless people that got conned by this guy and then sucked into the vortex of #### that is his campaign.
I also find it insanely ironic though that they look for salvation in the Republican Party because "Bible".
true but it seems there is no solution except to get that factory back. That's not happening. The government has given grants to some and those who are successful have found better jobs. But it's not the factory in their town. It's a tech company in the city.
Trump promises to get that factory back, so they believe it.
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yup but that's how it is in America right? Let's take an example we love. Football.
Let's say Hillary is president in the next 8 years and in those 8 years deaths in high school and college football increase and it is subsequently banned. Some Republican president hopeful could run on that. The Democrats are traitors, they took FOOTBALL away! Theyll took AMERICA away! They sell America away for anything to anyone, lobbyists, terrorists. See how it builds?
People older than us care about American identity. Make America great again. People younger than us have the internet and the world at their fingertips. At least until the boomers die off, this is the divide in America.
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I really don't think this is a Boomers thing. There are plenty of GenXers and even millennials that are in the economic undertow. If they think the underlying causes of this rage wave are going away when the Boomers die off, they're in for some trouble.
Right now it's a lot of white people and a lot of racism gets stirred in. In the future this will just purely be the underclass that's angry, regardless of race.
So you had the NL team (Hillary) that was way ahead and looking unbeatable, then the NL team collapsed and the AL team (Trump) made an unexpected comeback, then the NL team seemed to finally pull ahead for good, but the AL team still made it more interesting at the end.
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In the last 8 times a World Series went to a Game 7 in a prez year, when the AL team wins, WH goes GOP; when the NL team wins, Dems do too.
If Trump is elected, I fear others will copy his divisiveness to gain power, not just in the US, but in Canada as well. The intolerance that is being spouted by Trump and some of his delegates & supporters is absolutely frightening.
As was noted much earlier in this thread, part of Trump's appeal (and Sanders) was the anti-establishment "overturning-the-apple-cart" agenda.
To suggest that people will copy Trump's divisness only because he wins is to discredit the feeling of an enormous part of the electorate on both sides of the political spectrum who feel entirely out of touch with the political class.
Even if Trump loses there will be people who represent that part of the electorate who want to see the established political system changed. Trump isn't the best standard bearer for those because he carries so much baggage, but it will continue. There are literally tens of millions on both GOP and DP sides of the ledger who want to see this change.
I think you can guarantee more anti-establishment movements from within established parties in the next 10 years.
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When Bill McAnulty, an elections board chairman in a mostly white North Carolina county, agreed in July to open a Sunday voting site where black church members could cast ballots after services, the reaction was swift: he was labeled a traitor by his fellow Republicans.
"I became a villain, quite frankly," recalled McAnulty at a state board of elections meeting in September that had been called to resolve disputes over early voting plans. "I got accused of being a traitor and everything else by the Republican Party," McAnulty said.
Following the blowback from Republicans, McAnulty later withdrew his support for the Sunday site.
Short piece on voter ID laws. Like how the Republican was positive about their chances because they have voter ID laws now and that'll make a difference.
A federal judge has denied the Pennsylvania Republican Party's effort to allow poll watchers from anywhere in the state monitor precincts on Election Day.
So it was with great anticipation that we looked forward to Donald Trump coming to our school as “Principal for a Day,” a great program from PENCIL, a nonprofit organization dedicated to bringing business leaders into the world of education.
Surely this billionaire’s visit would be the catalyst for something special. After all, that was the point of the program. We had heard that an executive from a major computing company had given his school a full computer lab. Our school was buzzing with excitement.
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Later, he met with our fifth-graders in the auditorium. We had 10 classes on a grade level. His big contribution to our school was that he would hold a lottery. He would take the winning class to the Nike store in Trump Tower to get new sneakers. His view of our students’ hopes and aspirations was clearly mired in a ghetto stereotype. As our (real) principal sardonically said later: “Why didn’t he just bring the watermelon?”
