[PGT] Booo, we suck - EDM 5 CGY 3

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by AC

I don't get the Elliott hate tonight. I thought he was pretty great actually.

How many breakaways did he face tonight? And the 2 PP goals were from terrible D coverage. That's the issue.

Exactly! The first PP, Stajan failed to tie up Erbele. How can you not able to tie up that Midget?

[AC]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

This is where I fault Johnny Hockey, he should have been in Calgary on day 1 of training camp. With or without a contract he needs to adjust to Calgary and the time zone.

Yep, Ristolainen asked to participate in Buffalo's camp despite not having a contract as a sign of good will.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Well, as I've been saying for years now, this team needs more Keenan. Until we bring back Soviet Mike nothing good is going to happen here.

Hell no! Keenan was horrible

[flames_fan13]

Originally Posted by SilverGS

McDavid wasn't the only one with breakaways due to speed. Letetsu joked he hasn't has a breakaway since playing in the minors and I think he had 2 in this game. 11 Shots in the second and third period combined. Really only one good chance which we scored on. Otherwise, really no quality chance during the last 2 periods.

Maybe I just expected a lot more after getting creamed in Wed. Ok I get it first game in new building, all that hype, I didn't sweat the loss too much. Tonight though I was expecting a fire to be lit and keep going. They had it in the first and then what? outskilled or outplayed?

The breakaways against, in my opinion were mostly because our defensemen looked as slow as snails more that the Oilers being better. I think we gave them both games. Too many mistakes on Wednesday and only playing 20 minutes today. Granted the Oilers took advantage it.

[Dion]

Calgary Flames Verified account ‏@NHLFlames

"It's disappointing. The first period was really good and in the second, for whatever reason, we started chasing." - Mark Giordano




Calgary Flames Verified account ‏@NHLFlames

"We have to clean some things up ... we weren't making clean plays ... the power play hurt us for sure tonight." - Mark Giordano

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Well Hartley made the playoffs once in 3 years? It wasn't exactly the golden era.

Well the 1st year we still had the remnants of the extremely disappointing late 2000's era team, Bowman wouldn't have got them to the playoffs and his last year he had the worst goaltending in the league, not exactly a coaching problem. I was really hoping he would've gotten one more year with a new goaltender duo. But I digress, this has been talked about ad nauseam. I really believe this cant be an accurate picture of Gulutzan's system/coaching, just hope the kinks get worked out quickly.

[Caged Great]

I am hoping that is the last game we ever see from Dennis Wideman again.

Send him to Stockton.

I would seriously rather see any of Wotherspoon/Kulak/Culkin/Andersson/Kylington out there instead because at least they have foot speed and some presence of mind not to turn pucks over at the offensive blue line for multiple breakaways.

That's at least 2 points he's cost us in the standings, maybe 3 or 4 as that McDavid Penalty shot killed the Flames attempt at a comeback.

[saillias]

Wideman eats pizza with a fork n knife, probably

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

That's because Elliott bailed this team's ass out repeatedly. By rights, we should have given up more goals tonight than we did Wednesday.

Talbot also bailed the Oilers out plenty, especially in that first period where it could easily have been blown open.

[bubbsy]

Some thoughts:
Dont u hate it when the pvr recording doesn't cover the full game. 10 min left in the 3rd and the recording stopped (and I thought I extended the record stop time by an hour)

Top line invisible, gaudreau was a complete non-factor

2nd line is ok but just like the preseason, for all the chances created, they actually don't generate goals

Special teams were terrible. Creating a diamond the size of a puck while the opposition skill players play tic tac toe till it opens up is a stupid strategy. Pp, no comment.

D was better tonight. But simple awareness seems to be missing, which I think is on the coach. Oilers are a one player team, contain him and let the rest take care of itself. I don't care if the flames don't score when McDavid is ever on the ice. He's so good that the line playing him , particularly the d should just focus on not giving up transition plays. That breakaway play was ugly on the flames d.

Another crap game from ferland. If he can't figure out a way to make an impact I'd rather see f. Hamilton in.

Bottom 6 forwards outside of ferland have played well.

Elliott was fine tonight.

I wanted a experienced coach who brings know how to this group. These young coaches don't really give much confidence. Not feeling great about the hire thud far.

Lastly, team looks like it has 1 high skill player yet expect to play a high skill game. Need to find an identity. Flames look like senators west.... few skill guys, ok non-flashy forwards outside of that. Defense that actually sucks at playing defense and ok but not game stealing goaltending. Gm and coach best determine the identity of this team quick.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Dion

Calgary Flames Verified account ‏@NHLFlames

"It's disappointing. The first period was really good and in the second, for whatever reason, we started chasing." - Mark Giordano




Calgary Flames Verified account ‏@NHLFlames

"We have to clean some things up ... we weren't making clean plays ... the power play hurt us for sure tonight." - Mark Giordano

Yeah. Except that's what you said after last game, Mark..

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by saillias

Wideman eats pizza with a fork n knife, probably

Weird yet effective insult

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by stang

You sure like talking about him too

You are stangconv on Hf, right?

[GreenLantern2814]

On the bright side, Deadwood is now on demand on Telus if you have HBO.

[hockey.modern]

Two games in, thoughts on Tkachuk?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Well, as I've been saying for years now, this team needs more Keenan. Until we bring back Soviet Mike nothing good is going to happen here.

Mike Keenan was legitimately the worst coach in franchise history.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Two games in, thoughts on Tkachuk?

Probably our best forward tonight overall. Really liking his game.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by flames_fan13

The breakaways against, in my opinion were mostly because our defensemen looked as slow as snails more that the Oilers being better. I think we gave them both games. Too many mistakes on Wednesday and only playing 20 minutes today. Granted the Oilers took advantage it.

Our defencemen pinch too much for my liking. The Oilers knew this and had players waiting for that breakway pass when one of their players blocked a shot. One of our d men should sit back a bit and help prevent all these odd man rushes we give up.

[Lobotroth]

Originally Posted by saillias

Wideman eats pizza with a fork n knife, probably

How do you eat it? With your hands?

[flames_fan13]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Two games in, thoughts on Tkachuk?

I like his game doesn't seem to be afraid of being a bit of the pest. Think it was in the first where Talbot had covered the puck and he wasn't afraid to start a scrum by giving a push against Gryba.