09-30-2016, 02:28 PM
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#921
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Some people just want to watch the world burn
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09-30-2016, 02:31 PM
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#922
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
What are you talking about? You don't think that's me?
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Perhaps it is, but it's not 10+ years old.
Shenanigans, sir.
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09-30-2016, 02:36 PM
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#924
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2014
Exp: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Alright...now we're posting pictures of people with bowl-cuts.
Johnny...I dont ask for much, but for the love of God, is there no humanity left in you? Do you understand what you're subjecting us to right now? A man with a bowl cut! For the sake of all things Holy and my sanity please sign the next thing placed in front of you!
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I'm sure he'll get right on that , sir !!!!!
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09-30-2016, 02:36 PM
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#925
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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One holdup in this contract may be the 2020-21 structure.
If there is a lockout that season, Monahan risks losing upwards of 2.5 million dollars. However he will still be paid 3.5 million dollars in signing bonus before the season.
Giordano on the other hand, risks losing upwards of his entire salary of 6.75 million dollars. I'm sure that was significant leverage in getting an extra year of term.
One thing about Tarasenko's contract, is there is no (knowledge of a) signing bonus on it. If there is a lockout Tarasenko simply won't get paid. However despite this, his pay in that season of 5 million dolalrs is well below his pay in the season prior (9.5) and the season following (9.5). He might have an AAV of 8 million over that three year span, but he is partially lockout protected.
In pretty much every contract signed extending through 2020-21, lockout protection seems to be a key factor in negotiations. I wonder if that's a significant reason for the delays with Kucherov, Ristolainen, Lindholm, Rakell, and Gaudreau. Not cap, but actual salary.
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09-30-2016, 02:37 PM
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#926
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
According to this, NHL players are paid on the 15th and last day of every month starting 30 September. Gaudreau's first payday is 15 October, and I expect (if I am reading this correctly) his situation is actually worse than I suggested above. With the season starting on the 12th, then that would mean missing only three games, but surrendering 1/13 of his annual salary for the year on his next contract.
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Cap Friendly retweeted something from an agency about pay period for the upcoming season.
https://twitter.com/GavinManagement/...98428877516801
Gavin Management
@GavinManagement
The 2016/17 NHL pay schedule will consist of 180 duty days #NHLmoney
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09-30-2016, 02:39 PM
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#927
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Franchise Player
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You would still be paid for all days worked once the contract is signed. Regardless of pay days.
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09-30-2016, 02:39 PM
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#928
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
What are you talking about? You don't think that's me?
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people have a problem with you because you've posted 9.46 post/day since you've joined.
relax, post less, read the board.
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09-30-2016, 02:42 PM
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#929
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Gaudreau might be better than either of them, but not so significantly that he can carry the line by himself.
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LOL
That's EXACTLY what he is. The gap between Gaudreau and both Bennett and Brouwer is very large. People are vastly overestimating how far along Bennett is in his development just to fit this stupid and weird narrative that has emerged on this site since we learned that this won't be a smooth negotiation. Bennett AND Brouwer didn't break 40 points last year, Brouwer is terrible for possession, Bennett is wildly inconsistent and I'm not sold that Monahan can quite carry a line by himself.
Bennett-Monahan-Brouwer would be the worst 1st line in the league unless Bennett explodes this year.
It's so funny how off the deep end this site is when it comes to supporting whatever narrative fits with the direction the team takes.
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09-30-2016, 02:45 PM
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#930
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
This picture?
Lol that was 10+ years old from a gmail account I created right out of college. But thanks for checking me out, I look just like Lewis Gross!
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Dos the word Flowbee mean anything to you?
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09-30-2016, 02:46 PM
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#931
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Perhaps it is, but it's not 10+ years old.
Shenanigans, sir.
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You want to make a bet?
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09-30-2016, 02:48 PM
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#932
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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We should dust off the old joke from we signed Johnny out of College where Conroy stands in line for an autograph wearing a ball cap and fake glasses but hes actually holding a contract.
"Thanks Johnny!!"
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09-30-2016, 02:48 PM
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#933
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
You want to make a bet?
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09-30-2016, 02:53 PM
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#934
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Franchise Player
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So the root of my asking when their pay period starts, is so we can identify an opportunity cost/benefit hardline.
Still a bit fuzzy on the first working day of their first bi-monthly pay period. I'm also alot lazy to formulate that.
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09-30-2016, 02:55 PM
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#935
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey
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Hey don't blame me, blame the people who can't stop trashing me . . . the last 7 pages is chock full of people who are seemingly obsessed with talking about me.
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09-30-2016, 02:56 PM
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#936
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Hey don't blame me, blame the people who can't stop trashing me . . . the last 7 pages is chock full of people who are seemingly obsessed with talking about me.
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people have a problem with you because you've posted 9.46 post/day since you've joined.
relax, post less, read the board.
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09-30-2016, 02:56 PM
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#937
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
So the root of my asking when their pay period starts, is so we can identify an opportunity cost/benefit hardline.
Still a bit fuzzy on the first working day of their first bi-monthly pay period. I'm also alot lazy to formulate that.
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There is no benefit.
His contract is essentially the yearly salary/days worked. So it doesn't matter when pay periods are. His contract will be prorated to the day he signs and starts working.
If he misses 15 days. He only misses 15 days of pay regardless of pay periods and dates.
Edit: Unless you mean when he actually starts losing money. Then ya ok I misunderstood.
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09-30-2016, 03:00 PM
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#938
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Bennett-Monahan-Brouwer
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Giordano-Monahan-Brodie
Let's go boys!
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
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09-30-2016, 03:00 PM
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#939
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
There is no benefit.
His contract is essentially the yearly salary/days worked. So it doesn't matter when pay periods are. His contract will be prorated to the day he signs and starts working.
If he misses 15 days. He only misses 15 days of pay regardless of pay periods and dates.
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You misunderstood what I read. I'm looking to identify WHEN that pay period starts, ie his first working day of his work year. Pro-rating it, is exactly what I'm insuating.
I see your edit. All good.
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09-30-2016, 03:01 PM
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#940
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handgroen
people have a problem with you because you've posted 9.46 post/day since you've joined.
relax, post less, read the board.
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9 posts a day doesn't seem like very much, I'm sure there are a lot of posters who post with that frequency . . . many in this very thread.
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