The New American Politics thread

[calculoso]

Agreed... but watch it turn to "they did not respect the NDA" instead

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Itse

A candidate essentially cheating his own staff out of salary should be a huge scandal.

Can't they band together and sue? (minus the $$$ required)

[nik-]

His own staff is one thing, but he's basically treating this election as a means to inject donated money into his business. Probably to debt service.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by peter12

I highly doubt that story is even true.

Just curious. What seems inaccurate about it? Time frame is right. Social norms seem consistent with the time. What seems unbelievable about this particular story?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Itse

A candidate essentially cheating his own staff out of salary should be a huge scandal.

I don't know if it should be a scandal or not, frankly to a certain degree these people get what they deserve for trusting Trump to actually pay them given his long documented history of stiffing people. What it should be is yet another sign Trump isn't in this for anyone but himself, and that his supporters are insane to think he actually cares about them, or that he'll ever create jobs or a stable economy for them. Or if he does create "jobs", they'll have to seriously wonder if they'll get paid for them. Trump wasn't joking when he said he was going to make money running for President. Hopefully the IRS and FEC scrutinize every single dollar from his campaign.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by New Era

Just curious. What seems inaccurate about it? Time frame is right. Social norms seem consistent with the time. What seems unbelievable about this particular story?

It wasn't a law course. It was a Computer Science course on how to create private email servers.

[MissTeeks]

Trump gave a speech about his position on the Iraq War. It sounded complicated:

Daniel Dale
Daniel Dale – Verified account ‏@ddale8

Here, paraphrased, are seven things Donald Trump just said about his Iraq War position in the span of two minutes

[Senator Clay Davis]

It still impresses me that Trump doesn't spontaneously combust when he does things like this. How does his mind stay straight when he goes 7 different directions in not even 2 minutes?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I knew where Aleppo was but only because my memory is weirdly good at remembering place names, which is an unfortunately useless skill considering I have no idea where my car keys are right now, but I digress... I definitely wouldn't expect 95+% of people to know it. It's not even the capital.

I would think that most politicians, journalists and academics would know.

Johnson isn't "most people". He is running for the president. It's kind of important to know those things.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Trump gave a speech about his position on the Iraq War. It sounded complicated:

Daniel Dale
Daniel Dale – Verified account ‏@ddale8

Here, paraphrased, are seven things Donald Trump just said about his Iraq War position in the span of two minutes

Bahahaha... that last point. Like he has access to intelligence these days.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by New Era

Just curious. What seems inaccurate about it? Time frame is right. Social norms seem consistent with the time. What seems unbelievable about this particular story?

Clinton has a history of humble-brags/egregious self-aggrandizing by placing herself at the fulcrum of important historical moments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ire-in-bosnia/

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I don't know if it should be a scandal or not, frankly to a certain degree these people get what they deserve for trusting Trump to actually pay them given his long documented history of stiffing people. What it should be is yet another sign Trump isn't in this for anyone but himself, and that his supporters are insane to think he actually cares about them, or that he'll ever create jobs or a stable economy for them. Or if he does create "jobs", they'll have to seriously wonder if they'll get paid for them. Trump wasn't joking when he said he was going to make money running for President. Hopefully the IRS and FEC scrutinize every single dollar from his campaign.

At the very least though he should be experienced and well versed in bankruptcy so maybe he could eliminate America's debt.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

At the very least though he should be experienced and well versed in bankruptcy so maybe he could eliminate America's debt.

The only reason he was not forced into personal bankruptcy, is the banks decided he was worth more to them alive than dead.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

At the very least though he should be experienced and well versed in bankruptcy so maybe he could eliminate America's debt.

I'm sure China will be cool if America files for Chapter 11.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by troutman

The only reason he was not forced into personal bankruptcy, is the banks decided he was worth more to them alive than dead.

Yeah, I saw that this weekend on the CNN special they had.

[nik-]

Honestly though, if it came down to it and the US told China to get ####ed over the debt it owes, what do you think would happen?

A new country (likely, several) would become the base of manufacturing for products to the US if China started strong arming trade and China would be left holding its dick. Clothing has already moved out of China for the most part.

National debt on a US scale with the US economy and military power isn't real. Especially when that debt is owed to a passive aggressive trade partner.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I'm sure China will be cool if America files for Chapter 11.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by nik-

Honestly though, if it came down to it and the US told China to get ####ed over the debt it owes, what do you think would happen?

All of the secret poison China put in all the #### American's buy would simultaneously be released across America, wiping America out so Chinese millionaires can come buy property they'll never live in most likely.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by peter12

Clinton has a history of humble-brags/egregious self-aggrandizing by placing herself at the fulcrum of important historical moments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ire-in-bosnia/

Well, there's one. A history seems to indicate their is a pattern, not just a single incident. You know, like Trump has a history of bankruptcy and conning people out of their money. What other incidents did she lie about? Also, I wouldn't say she place herself at the fulcrum of an important historical moment. She recounted a moment in Bosnia, hardly an important historical moment. It wasn't like she said she was sitting on the bus next to Rosa Parks, or *cough* she had seen Muslims in New York celebrating when the twin towers went down.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by New Era

Well, there's one. A history seems to indicate their is a pattern, not just a single incident. You know, like Trump has a history of bankruptcy and conning people out of their money. What other incidents did she lie about? Also, I wouldn't say she place herself at the fulcrum of an important historical moment. She recounted a moment in Bosnia, hardly an important historical moment. It wasn't like she said she was sitting on the bus next to Rosa Parks, or *cough* she had seen Muslims in New York celebrating when the twin towers went down.

You really are a Manichean, aren't you.

She has lied about being broke, about trying to join the Marines, about being named after Edmund Hillary, about having immigrant grandparents.

Come oooonnnnnn.

And Bosnia? It was the centre of her husband's foreign policy. It was an incredibly historical moment.