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			There is little chance these characters will spend three years in a prison...unless they show no remorse or cause problems.  
Plotting a murder two murders with a co-hort is a wee bit more serious than having murderous thoughts and dreams, jeez.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-03-2016, 04:07 PM
			
			
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			Their lives are pretty much ruined, regardless of the term of the sentence.  Would a couple more years make any difference? 
 
(I'm not saying that isn't deserved - it is, just saying that is the real punishment)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-03-2016, 04:23 PM
			
			
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				Their lives are pretty much ruined, regardless of the term of the sentence.  Would a couple more years make any difference? 
 
(I'm not saying that isn't deserved - it is, just saying that is the real punishment) 
			
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Whether their lives are ruined really depends on them from this point forward imho and should not be a concern to society at large.  
What should concern the rest of us is whether they are a risk to re-offend, and whether their sentences are appropriate, given their crimes. On the face of it, I consider three years a light sentence, but I expect the judge will have found mitigating factors i.e.: no prior convictions etc.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-03-2016, 04:47 PM
			
			
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				Whether their lives are ruined really depends on them from this point forward imho and should not be a concern to society at large.  
What should concern the rest of us is whether they are a risk to re-offend, and whether their sentences are appropriate, given their crimes. On the face of it, I consider three years a light sentence, but I expect the judge will have found mitigating factors i.e.: no prior convictions etc. 
			
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Family destroyed.  Children alienated.  Jobs lost.  Criminal record.  Jail time.  Everyone they know probably turning their backs on them.
 
I don't know these people but I will go out on a limb and say yeah, pretty much ruined.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-03-2016, 04:50 PM
			
			
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				Family destroyed.  Children alienated.  Jobs lost.  Criminal record.  Jail time.  Everyone they know probably turning their backs on them. 
 
I don't know these people but I will go out on a limb and say yeah, pretty much ruined. 
			
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Less concerned about the punishment aspect, more concerned about people who have proven they cannot be trusted to make reasonable decisions and are clearly threats to others and the rest if society being turned loose to make more bad decisions and potentially cost innocent people their lives.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-03-2016, 04:58 PM
			
			
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				Family destroyed.  Children alienated.  Jobs lost.  Criminal record.  Jail time.  Everyone they know probably turning their backs on them. 
 
I don't know these people but I will go out on a limb and say yeah, pretty much ruined. 
			
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People do return from prison and have productive lives.  
Again, my point is, whether or not their lives are "ruined" or "destroyed" from this point going forward is no one's concern or responsibility--or choice--but their own. They made their own beds, so boo hoo. 
btw, here they are plotting to murder two innocent people:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fFKAUctoeI
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-04-2016, 11:08 AM
			
			
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				There is little chance these characters will spend three years in a prison...unless they show no remorse or cause problems.  
Plotting a murder two murders with a co-hort is a wee bit more serious than having murderous thoughts and dreams, jeez. 
			
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Yeah, 3 years in prison "more serious".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-04-2016, 12:10 PM
			
			
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				Murder, while successful or unsuccessful, should be more penalized 
			
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"Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry?"  
			
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			09-04-2016, 12:10 PM
			
			
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				Sideshow Bob: [Bob calls Birch Barlow's show during a prison riot] I am presently incarcerated, imprisoned for a crime I did not even commit. "Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry?" 
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