The New American Politics thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

We've had the GOP bubble for years, but the Trump bubble is another animal. There's a "secret document" from PPP that shows the "real" Florida poll numbers. And here they are. Try not to laugh too hard...

[Fuzz]

Seams legit.

[station]

^ My favorite part is how the total poll numbers add up to 93%.

Also the whole thing just reads like it's written by someone with a grade 9 education, just like the 'doctor's' letter.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Obviously he now has his phone permanently back with Manafort out of the picture.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Um, where does that come from? This is actually getting dangerous. If people believe that, then when the real result comes and lines up with the real polls, people will reject it as well and will absolutely conclude that the election was just as rigged as the polling.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's being passed around in Trumpland in the various spots you can find Trump supporters congregated. That's just one example, these people are convinced this will be the greatest landslide in the history of the republic, but that the media and George Soros and Merkel and the globalists and whoever else is meddling and doing all they can to prevent America from being great again. But the great orange goblin will overcome those forces and save the white race or whatever.

[station]

If this is the angle they are going with the election night 'concession speech' should be entertaining. I would put money on Trump refusing to cede the race and instead contesting the results and possibly inciting violence. Even though he's cratering there will be still be millions of super angry pro-Trumpers out there.

[Street Pharmacist]

Lol. "...due to media messaging"

They just can't help themselves. "Reality is not what I want or read on Breitbart so it must be what I'm being told by the other 99% of sources that is wrong"

Logic

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

We've had the GOP bubble for years, but the Trump bubble is another animal. There's a "secret document" from PPP that shows the "real" Florida poll numbers. And here they are. Try not to laugh too hard...

My favourite part is the pollster took the time to ask if you found Hillary's voice grating.

I would like the job of fake letter writer for trump. I could do a much better job. Like not using dead doctors and have websites that work. These things look like the fraud emails written by people who don't speak English

[GGG]

Originally Posted by station

If this is the angle they are going with the election night 'concession speech' should be entertaining. I would put money on Trump refusing to cede the race and instead contesting the results and possibly inciting violence. Even though he's cratering there will be still be millions of super angry pro-Trumpers out there.

Maybe as a result of this they will go to a paper based ballot system so you can have proper recounts. If you want electronic counting just use the scantron style ballots.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by GGG

My favourite part is the pollster took the time to ask if you found Hillary's voice grating.

I would like the job of fake letter writer for trump. I could do a much better job. Like not using dead doctors and have websites that work. These things look like the fraud emails written by people who don't speak English

I agree with CHL that this is getting to the point where it isn't funny anymore. To anyone with half a brain, this memo is as fake as Trump's doctor's note, but those inside the echo chamber will latch on to this as justification for not accepting the results of a democratic election.

It begs the question: what kind of person thinks faking this sort of memo is a good idea?

It also confirms another thing: whoever is behind this expects Trump to lose in November--they are building a "story" they can deploy after that loss whereby they can claim it was all a fraud.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The hiring of Breitbart and the association with Ailes, along with the constant railing against the unfair media, have made it abundantly clear Trump's real end game here is indeed Trump News Network. I also think his goal now is to lose as badly as possible going full alt-right, so that he can be a "martyr" to their cause, and because getting blown out drives the conspiracy story more than losing closely based of their echo chamber "polls" showing Trump up 40-50 points. I wonder how Fox News feels about Trump using them to ultimately create their new rival in the right wing cable news demographic. I would also think Hannity is going to get 12 hours of programming a day on TNN.

[GGG]

I think it's pretty clear that the Trump News Network is coming within 6 months of the election. It could by ugly as the misinformed will have a constant echo chamber worse than Fox News

Edit: SCD beat me to it.

It also fits with the revenge on NBC Michael Moore naritive

[AcGold]

You guys rail against conspiracies based on speculation as if only a lunatic would contemplate them... then come up with your own conspiracy theories based on speculation. Nice. I guess conspiracy theories from the left are to be taken serious but from the right it's dangerous. Ok.

[troutman]

People talk a lot about Cable News Networks, but not that many people actually watch them:

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/score...gust-16/302283

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by AcGold

You guys rail against conspiracies based on speculation as if only a lunatic would contemplate them... then come up with your own conspiracy theories based on speculation. Nice. I guess conspiracy theories from the left are to be taken serious but from the right it's dangerous. Ok.

This is a fair point.

But honestly we are trying to make sense of what appears to be the actions of a lunatic (or lunatics).

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by AcGold

You guys rail against conspiracies based on speculation as if only a lunatic would contemplate them... then come up with your own conspiracy theories based on speculation. Nice. I guess conspiracy theories from the left are to be taken serious but from the right it's dangerous. Ok.

I must be missing something, but where's the conspiracy here? It's a logical deduction based off Trump's actions. White genocide, one of the tenets of Trump supporters, is a conspiracy theory because there's nothing meaningful to back it up.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

This is a fair point.

But honestly we are trying to make sense of what appears to be the actions of a lunatic (or lunatics).

Which is what most people labeled "conspiracy theorists" are trying to do. The political climate is so tense these days that questioning the official story is labelled conspiracy immediately. The room for discussion and thought is being reduced to a very small box.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by AcGold

You guys rail against conspiracies based on speculation as if only a lunatic would contemplate them... then come up with your own conspiracy theories based on speculation. Nice. I guess conspiracy theories from the left are to be taken serious but from the right it's dangerous. Ok.

What's the conspiracy?

That Trump will try to make money after his upcoming crushing defeat?

I don't buy any of the intentionally trying to lose stuff. ANd don't believe there is a secret master mind trump out there. This trump is the real trump an instinct following crazy person who understands how to grift but doesn't understand the nuance of appealing to people who aren't impressed by his wealth and bull####.

I do think he is planning on what to do if he loses.

[HotHotHeat]

Serious question: Would the US cable/Satellite providers think twice about carrying a Trump News Channel?