07-28-2016, 08:03 PM
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#8781
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Retired
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Originally Posted by Itse
What long history of corruption? She has been never even been accused of anything in court, let alone convicted, despite numerous investigations into her finances and the finances of the Clinton foundation.
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Has there been numerous investigations of the Clinton foundation?
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07-28-2016, 08:04 PM
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#8782
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GGG
You seem to lack reading comprehension then.
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Salty! I was just joking. But no, you misused the word "equivocation". Hold on let me get Buster, we can argue for a few pages about what it really means.
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07-28-2016, 08:05 PM
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#8783
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Salty! I was just joking. But no, you misused the word "equivocation". Hold on let me get Buster, we can argue for a few pages about what it really means.
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Sorry I thought you were arguing that buster wasn't presenting a false equivalence based arguement against Hillary.
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07-28-2016, 08:07 PM
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#8784
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Chelsea's pretty boring so far.
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07-28-2016, 08:09 PM
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#8785
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Oh, the middle east would have been a disaster without her. But she voted for war in Iraq. So my statement could stand based on that alone.
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EVERYONE voted for that war, based on bad information. Plus, Hillary was the senator from New York, you know, that place where the terror attacks happened? She had no choice but to vote for a plan that would go after the people who orchestrated the attacks. In retrospect, it was a mistake, but it's because the executive branch LIED like crazy to make it happen.
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But then we have Libya. She supported the Muslim Brotherhood in egypt to setup a hardline Islamic government.
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She did? News to me. Everything I've ready said she talked about using caution supporting any one side. It didn't go well, but it was such a chaotic period that it was hard to pick the "right" side. Either way, it's better than having that lunatic Gaddafi in power.
BTW, you know Libya isn't in Egypt right?
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Her actions in Iraq in recent years probably contributed to the rise of ISIS at least in part. In general, she is a hawk.
So yes, the middle east got worse under her watch.
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All of this is general hearsay that the right has put out. There's no evidence that anything she did or didn't do had anything to do with the rise of ISIS. The Iraq war and the subsequent power vacuum that occurred following the withdrawal of U.S. forces (which was pre-ordained BEFORE Obama took office by the Bush administration) was largely to blame for the rise of ISIS. That, and the utter incompetence of local governments to contain them.
Honestly, you are beginning to sound more and more like a Trump clone. These are all vague arguments that he's made as well without much merit.
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07-28-2016, 08:11 PM
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#8786
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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"Boring" is charitable.
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07-28-2016, 08:11 PM
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#8787
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Chelsea's pretty boring so far.
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I thought it was alright so far for a feels speech.
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07-28-2016, 08:13 PM
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#8788
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Drak
I thought it was alright so far for a feels speech.
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Her cadence is terrible, she's monotonous and can't seem to freestyle off prompter to sound more authentic. She sounds like a robot that would fail a Turing test.
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07-28-2016, 08:15 PM
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#8789
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Her cadence is terrible, she's monotonous and can't seem to freestyle off prompter to sound more authentic. She sounds like a robot that would fail a Turing test.
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Yah it headed that way. I didn't mind the first bits.
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07-28-2016, 08:15 PM
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#8790
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Franchise Player
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Well it has been redeemed by Morgan Freeman.
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07-28-2016, 08:16 PM
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#8791
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Andy Dewfrane...
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07-28-2016, 08:17 PM
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#8792
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Aww ####, they got the voice of God.
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07-28-2016, 08:19 PM
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#8793
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Calgary
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At least she's not hawking her outfit like ivanka did right after her speech.
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07-28-2016, 08:19 PM
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#8794
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Get busy living, or get busy lying.
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07-28-2016, 08:24 PM
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#8795
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Obama sharing credit for Bin Laden
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07-28-2016, 08:27 PM
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#8796
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He doesn't need the credit anymore. Nothing left to win.
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07-28-2016, 08:28 PM
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#8797
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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I love Bill's perma jaw drop.
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07-28-2016, 08:28 PM
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#8798
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Goddamn those Yanks can put on a show.
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07-28-2016, 08:30 PM
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#8799
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Goddamn those Yanks can put on a show.
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Well, the RNC can't. This week makes them look even worse, and they've managed it despite some significant division in the ranks. Now to see if they boo her...
This is a lot of playing to the crowd before even speaking. You'd think she'd save it for the end.
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07-28-2016, 08:30 PM
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#8800
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Has there been numerous investigations of the Clinton foundation?
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I framed that badly, but the impression I got from by googling is that several medias have tried to dig into it pretty seriously over the years, finding nothing worse than bad optics. There was also a 2015 State Department subpoena that didn't seem to lead anywhere. (We would otherwise have heard from it by now I believe.)
There is a lot of speculation that the Clintons are using the foundation to funnel money to their political campaigns from foreign donators that would otherwise be barred from donating campaign money. Would not surprise me if that was the case, and there are some numbers thrown around that do make things look possibly shady.
Another case of "nothing ever proven" however.
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