The New American Politics thread

[Flash Walken]

Filipino tilt a whirl operators are the backbone of America

[Thor]

America is crying out for something new, something different... YES so vote Republican loooooooool

[MrMastodonFarm]

secretary of the status quo? Damn, kitties got claws

[MrMastodonFarm]

Wasted opportunity to not say huge not Donald. Yuuuuuuuge.
3/10 Great concept, poor delivery.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Thor

America is crying out for something new, something different... YES so vote Republican loooooooool

well it is different!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Start winning? Start winning what?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Well if this VP thing doesn't work out for Pence maybe he can make it as a sneaky funny stand comedian. That little smirk and wink routine will work every time.

[ResAlien]

Winning hearts and minds? That never fails.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Well in America, states rights is usually a cover for allowing more discrimination. It's almost always espoused by Christian far righties like Ted Cruz for instance. Paul Ryan isn't one of those types, and really he's not that much more liked. The small government argument is also usually bunk with the GOP because they like more control over women's bodies and reproductive rights, more money to the military and more corporate handouts. They just want to cut welfare and social security and privatize Medicare. That's the kind of small government they want.

Also he's just....slimy. Really gross to hear speak. He's legitimately one of the most hated individuals there is, some many people who've done any extensive work with him has had bad things to say. His own kids don't appear to like him as evidence from the classic gif/video. He's just not a very good person really.

Why should the federal government govern things like education. I though education is state jurisdiction?

If voters in Texas want school choice, why does Maine have to abide by it?

Welfare should be cut in favour of things like an enhanced EITC, etc...

And the GOP will not kill Medicare, arithmetic will.

[ResAlien]

Hold the phone, Republicans better for not only unions but minorities as well. Ooh, a party of Lincoln reference.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Hmmm....

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Okay, this is getting way too boring. Wrap it up bud.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Yes, the invisible guy in the sky still gets a lot of cheers. Well played, Pence.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Well, aside from the fact that that was clearly aimed at someone decidedly not me, I actually thought that was objectively well done... by the standard of what's gone on the past couple of days, it was next to flawless. Guy almost no one knew, and that was a very solid introduction.

And now everyone in that hall probably wishes he was the nominee instead.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

That was a fantastic fake political speech. Look fake, act fake, mention god a bunch of times, throw in a mention of the military here and there, talk about the good old days as a kid in Indiana, finish up strong with god blessing the U.S.

[ResAlien]

NBC destroying Don for his brief drive by after Pence finished up.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Well, aside from the fact that that was clearly aimed at someone decidedly not me, I actually thought that was objectively well done... by the standard of what's gone on the past couple of days, it was next to flawless. Guy almost no one knew, and that was a very solid introduction.

And now everyone in that hall probably wishes he was the nominee instead.

Yep, I'll revise my earlier comment. For what he was asked to do he did his job well.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Hyde

Cruz talked about freedom and rights, yet he wants to tell women what to do with their own bodies.

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Radical Islamic terrorism, radical EPA, radical laws, radical radical

The GOP loves "small government" unless you're a gay person trying to get married or adopt a child, or if you're a woman who wants birth control or an abortion.

To the GOP, abortion is murder--but slowly poisoning a community with pollution and toxic waste is the free market at work.

They only like "small government" when it comes to paying for the federal services that they benefit from in the form of taxes.

Originally Posted by Thor

Well if he got the same deal Kasich got, this is your next president if Trump wins.

So I'll stockpile my birth control now, he'll do his best to make sure I can't access it. Because his religious beliefs trump my personal decisions about my body.

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Why should the federal government govern things like education. I though education is state jurisdiction?

If voters in Texas want school choice, why does Maine have to abide by it?

Welfare should be cut in favour of things like an enhanced EITC, etc...

And the GOP will not kill Medicare, arithmetic will.

But if Texas wants to whitewash the Trans-Atlantic slave trade out of their textbooks (they do), why should the Federal government allow them to purposefully miseducate the youth that are going to grow up to run this country in the future?

If Texas and other states want to provide non-scientific abstinence only education to their students--despite the fact that it often leads to higher cases of teen pregnancy, higher abortion rates, higher instances of STIs, etc--why should the government allow that to happen, when its the taxpayers who will then be paying for those unplanned babies?

To an extent, yes, states should have some ability to govern at the state level, but there have to be checks and balances, like you aren't allowed to purposefully teach wrong and misleading information to the children in your care.

Also my rights as a woman shouldn't depend on which state lines I live inside. The rights of gay people shouldn't depend on what state they're in. The ability to vote shouldn't depend on the state you live in. Unfortunately, a lot of states take advantage of "states rights" to limit the rights of exactly those people.

[Senator Clay Davis]

So here's the whole Trump article about not fulfilling NATO obligations, and more fun foreign policy talk. It's hilarious how Pence contradicts him several times in his speech tonight. What a ticket and party of unity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us...mp-issues.html

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

There's a reasonable argument as to the right balance of power as between the federal, state and local governments and that's obviously one of the policy debates that should ideally be had between competent Democratic and Republican candidates. Certainly shouldn't surprise anyone that a RNC speaker bangs that drum.