Florida Congressman sends dirty email to teens

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I'm not asking for proof, but I'd be willing to be the number is much, much higher than you are suggesting.

2 words for you...

Catholic Democrats.

Huge demographic and 'all catholics' believe in the rapture.

1. All Catholics DO NOT believe in the raputure. I can introduce you so many. Was going to say some, but acutually, I can say MANY.

2. I did not mean those believing in a conceptual long time from now sort of way, I meant card carrying, potitically based and active 'rapurists'. If you are pretending to be ignorant of the group I am talking about then good for you.

3. I am not talking about catholics or republicans or democrats in a large sense. I was talking about a group that WAS fringe, has since become mainstream and is predominantly republican

I would be stupid to declare that christians are basically democratic.

I never said that. I said the group know as 'raputurists' are. You did not refute me on this, in fact you avoided my question very well with a two word statement of 'democratic christians'.

Thank you for helping to make my point and not taking the statemet head on.

You have done very well as devils advocate on this site. Sorry, I'm calling you out on this one.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Once again, what I feel is irrelevant. It's the perception that they have chosen to create that is relevant and is POLARIZING.

The perception is there because it is correct.

There has been a power play for many years. And even though scandals like this PROVE they don't play by their own rules, they continue to push outdated ideas to pander to a continually larger group of public that can't be bothered with compicated social issues.

[Daradon]

Wow! The calvary finaly arrived!

To be truthfully, this particualr story didn't affect me that much, but an earlier poster wanted to take me to task. After that I had to go back and re-explain to those who did not take the time to read all of my posts.

However I have received an abnormal amount of 'contacts' because of my writings on this thread.

I expected a backlash of conservative minds on this thread obviously.

I was not prepared for the significant amount of people that reached me both by mail and PHONE. All supporters. I can only imagine you got my info off my recent business ad.

I thank all of you again and again.

I want to thank you wholeheartedly for your support. I was just about ready to give up. There are obviously many people who saw what I was getting at, even though the usual suspects tried to downplay or even confuse it.

I'm done with this thread. This will be my last post in this thread... But I will be putting out an OP-ed post in the next week or so.

Some have asked me how they can help. I encourage any with support or questions to contact me directly at 701-9551 or better yet drop a line at tylerfish@shaw.ca . Same as my business info.

The far right have become powerful by being organized. It's time for us to do the same. It's time for people to get upset over the loss of freedoms and the general ignorance taking hold of a good portion of these two countries.

Thank you all again. Both sides. I support all of your freedom of speech, and ironically enough, it's your freedom of speech I am trying to protect.

Be well,
Tyler

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Wow!

The far right have become powerful by being organized.

Depends what your perspective is. If you are far left. Then the middle ground tends to be deep right.


I am sorry but it is YOU that is the extreme.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

My brother is born again and is extremely active in the church. I also have a sister who works for one of the diocese in Alberta and a first cousin who is a deacon in the RC church (he had two audiences with Pope JP II). I also have 11 years of religious education under my belt which was more than helpful in acing world religions and theology classes in university. That's where I get my information.



Yes, and you did so well defending your point and identifying where we are wrong. How about something to back yourself up?



And what does this point support? That Christian fundamentalists are scary? Thank you!



Uh huh. Pat Robertson is such a great spokesmen for your "tolerant" religion. Gotta love it when a religion's leaders are complete chaletons and scumbags like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and his whore Tammy Faye, Oral Roberts, Peter Popoff, Robert Tilton, Benny Hinn, and Jim Whittington.



Better talk with Dumbya about that, Sparky. Seems he has no fear of bring about the Rapture.



Uh huh. And who is circling the wagons to support this Cho-Mo and the Republican party? You're Born Again *******s, that's who. Say, care to comment on the following:

84% Christian Coalition support for Foley

http://ontheissues.org/FL/Mark_Foley.htm
http://www.issues2000.org/FL/Mark_Fo...+_Children.htm

Continued Republican support from the Christian media in the wake of the Foley scandal

http://news.christiansunite.com/Reli...shtml?from=rss
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/973281157.html

Republican biased and Christian based Washington Times saw one of their directors hammered for soliciting a 13 year old.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0906/364718.html

Republican Christian Coalition leader busted for sexual assault on minors.

http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Lou_Beres.htm

Republican judge busted for fondling a 10 year old!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C0A9629C8B63

Republican leader busted for having sex with a five year old boy!

http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Bobby_Stumbo.htm

Face it pal, you're so in over your head it isn't even funny. You continue to flog that garbage you like to call a religion like it is a shield against anything. You liike to call people arrogant and hateful, yet you don't bother to read what you write. Your posts speak of more hate and arrogance than any on the board. Keep up the good work, you're crucify yourself with each post.

Lanny you have lots of family with lots of experience. Any that are in Area 52???

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Depends what your perspective is. If you are far left. Then the middle ground tends to be deep right.


I am sorry but it is YOU that is the extreme.

Said I wouldn't do this... but this (his last post, can't quote within for some reason) has been edited AND taken out of context. I invite ALL to read the original.

This is why I got e-mails of support. And even a few more since my responses.

The usual dodging, sideswiping, and confusing.

Please continue. Please.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Said I wouldn't do this... but this (his last post, can't quote within for some reason) has been edited AND taken out of context. I invite ALL to read the original.

This is why I got e-mails of support. And even a few more since my responses.

The usual dodging, sideswiping, and confusing.

Please continue. Please.

Now I am curious. "Can't quote within" means....what? What has been edited and taken out of context?

Emails of support? Is this the Lanny, "I don't have any arguent so I come I come up with 'I have family' doing this or that argument" argument?

I am dodging, sideswiping, confusing..........

Playing Dodgeball????

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Lanny you have lots of family with lots of experience. Any that are in Area 52???

Another drive-by from the king of drive-bys. I notice you attacked the information posted again, and not the messenger.

Dis asked where I got my information and I told him. I know that EXPERIENCE and EDUCATION doesn't amount to much when you have a wealth of fictional GAME TAPE to rely upon, but in the real world they do matter.

It makes me laugh when I read **** from you. You don't care what the situation is, you just defend the extreme right. Here we are discussing the actions of a PEDOPHILE and the blind support for that individual based on political lines, and you are standing right behind him and supporting him. Based on experience (there's that word again) the only people who support pedophiles are those who have prediliction to that lifestyle or have zero regard for the lives of others. I don't wish ill on people, but anyone who defends Cho-Mos deserves to experience the fate their victims went through.

And don't call Daradon extreme, because it isn't true. YOU are the extremist and support it in every single post you make. I thought that even a mouth breather like yourself would have started to clue into the fact that everyone else on the board is left of you, and when everyone else seems to be all stacked up on one side, that its probably YOU that has the extreme views. The only allu you regularly have in your causes is White Doors, and if that isn't sending you message about your position, nothing will. You're a lost cause.

BTW, what is Area 52? Never heard of it.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Another drive-by from the king of drive-bys. I notice you attacked the information posted again, and not the messenger.

Dis asked where I got my information and I told him. I know that EXPERIENCE and EDUCATION doesn't amount to much when you have a wealth of fictional GAME TAPE to rely upon, but in the real world they do matter.

It makes me laugh when I read **** from you. You don't care what the situation is, you just defend the extreme right. Here we are discussing the actions of a PEDOPHILE and the blind support for that individual based on political lines, and you are standing right behind him and supporting him. Based on experience (there's that word again) the only people who support pedophiles are those who have prediliction to that lifestyle or have zero regard for the lives of others. I don't wish ill on people, but anyone who defends Cho-Mos deserves to experience the fate their victims went through.

And don't call Daradon extreme, because it isn't true. YOU are the extremist and support it in every single post you make. I thought that even a mouth breather like yourself would have started to clue into the fact that everyone else on the board is left of you, and when everyone else seems to be all stacked up on one side, that its probably YOU that has the extreme views. The only allu you regularly have in your causes is White Doors, and if that isn't sending you message about your position, nothing will. You're a lost cause.

BTW, what is Area 52? Never heard of it.

52?!!!! Haven't heard of it? Isn't that the new US-take-over-the-world-site that GDub opened up after Clinton cloesd the last one? I mean you are so well connected and such I figure you have some relative or other there......where ever that is. Shouldn't he or she or it be test driving, flying, time-travelin-ing-'n......???????????

I need to know since my molar went on the fritz since 2003 and all of a sudden I have felt a very big need to buy a Catcher in the Rye and assassinate a Kennedy......

honest.......


From a hairy Gnome.......


in Dallas...........


Close to a book depository..........

Now that Darandan has started PM'ing me with really fk'ed up messages....

I need to re-connect with the MOTHER SHIP!!!!

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by HOZ

52?!!!! Haven't heard of it? Isn't that the new US-take-over-the-world-site that GDub opened up after Clinton cloesd the last one? I mean you are so well connected and such I figure you have some relative or other there......where ever that is. Shouldn't he or she or it be test driving, flying, time-travelin-ing-'n......???????????

I need to know since my molar went on the fritz since 2003 and all of a sudden I have felt a very big need to buy a Catcher in the Rye and assassinate a Kennedy......

honest.......


From a hairy Gnome.......


in Dallas...........


Close to a book depository..........

Now that Darandan has started PM'ing me with really fk'ed up messages....

I need to re-connect with the MOTHER SHIP!!!!

Wow! Nice nonsensical rambling! Someone has gone cucoo-cucoo for coacoa-puffs!

Do yourself a favor HOZ, take a step in front of a fast moving bus. Put yourself out of your misery. No one will even know or care you're gone. If you're confused about how the process works, I'm sure you can dig up some game tapes some where. You never seem to have problem getting game tapes!

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Wow! Nice nonsensical rambling! Someone has gone cucoo-cucoo for coacoa-puffs!

Do yourself a favor HOZ, take a step in front of a fast moving bus. Put yourself out of your misery. No one will even know or care you're gone. If you're confused about how the process works, I'm sure you can dig up some game tapes some where. You never seem to have problem getting game tapes!

Lanny I am depending on you. You R so well connected.....


Get in touch witht he MOther ship and let them knowI need to talk with them!!! PullllEEEEASE.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Said I wouldn't do this... but this (his last post, can't quote within for some reason) has been edited AND taken out of context. I invite ALL to read the original.

This is why I got e-mails of support. And even a few more since my responses.

The usual dodging, sideswiping, and confusing.

Please continue. Please.

Well that didn't take long for you to quit playing by the "rules" and you own self made ones. Yep buddy I'm sure you have had plenty of support and yeah I love the one how you know MANY Catholics who are whatever. What constitutes many there buddy.

Oh I don't expect an answer. Well unless that is you want to show again what a hypocrite you are.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Lanny I am depending on you. You R so well connected.....


Get in touch witht he MOther ship and let them knowI need to talk with them!!! PullllEEEEASE.

Still can't attack the content there hero? Still waiting for you, the pedophile lover, to try and make that whole issue go away. You can't so you take to attacking me and trying to discredit me, which you can't do because I back up my arguments. I don't make a drive-by then run away and hide like the little bitch that you are. So come on hero, dig into the game tapes, wade past your collection of kiddie porn, and find something that sup[ports your point. Oh wait, have you even tried to make a point you're just flinging your spunk laced feces at people and hoping it will make them run away in repulsion. Nice work Cho-mo lover.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Still can't attack the content there hero? Still waiting for you, the pedophile lover, to try and make that whole issue go away. You can't so you take to attacking me and trying to discredit me, which you can't do because I back up my arguments. I don't make a drive-by then run away and hide like the little bitch that you are. So come on hero, dig into the game tapes, wade past your collection of kiddie porn, and find something that sup[ports your point. Oh wait, have you even tried to make a point you're just flinging your spunk laced feces at people and hoping it will make them run away in repulsion. Nice work Cho-mo lover.

Puleeease Lanny. Let one of your many in touch relatives know. I need to connect with the mothership!!

I meed to know which Kennedy to shoot!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Daradon

1. All Catholics DO NOT believe in the raputure. I can introduce you so many. Was going to say some, but acutually, I can say MANY.

2. I did not mean those believing in a conceptual long time from now sort of way, I meant card carrying, potitically based and active 'rapurists'. If you are pretending to be ignorant of the group I am talking about then good for you.

3. I am not talking about catholics or republicans or democrats in a large sense. I was talking about a group that WAS fringe, has since become mainstream and is predominantly republican

I would be stupid to declare that christians are basically democratic.

I never said that. I said the group know as 'raputurists' are. You did not refute me on this, in fact you avoided my question very well with a two word statement of 'democratic christians'.

Thank you for helping to make my point and not taking the statemet head on.

You have done very well as devils advocate on this site. Sorry, I'm calling you out on this one.

Are you for real?

What in the hell are you talking about?

LMAO. I didn't say anything you siad I did. You might want to read the post again carefully because clearly you missed it.

I think it was established to further discuss this you need to define rapture as you attribute it to 20% of Americans. I need to know exactly what you mean.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I would guess that abortion is the bigger issue. I would think that as a group the Family is its main interest group. Policies that allow the killing of what we perceive to be children or diminishes the special status of what is a family is repugnant to fundamental Christians. Most of them realize that the Republicans have done little to change the status-quo. But most of them believe that the Democrats(because of their position on these issues) would continue to further these agendas.

I would not be surprised to find that many fundamental Christians who have traditionally aligned themselves with the Democrats have determined to stay away from the polls rather than support the party's platform.

Flame On is it ignorance or arrogance to assume that a Democratic President would appoint judges and enact laws that would enhance or at least protect the killing of unborn children and the redefining of the family to include any combination of partners? I guess you could argue that one should not decide who you are going to vote for on one or two issues but, generally most do on either side of the political fence. Also to a fundamental Christian one is a life and death issue involving children and the other(the family) will determine the future of the country.

Good point. The religious right wanting to control women's bodies and decide what counts as human life. Add that to a section of the population who would like to marry, but the religious right arrogantly want's to decide what the defenition of family is. Like I said, talk about arrogance and minimalizing.
You are right, if you want to decide how others live their lives in those respects you should probably not vote along the lines as you mentioned.
But don't try and tell me that the left are arrogant and minimising in comparison to that!

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Uh oh. This scandal is starting to really come to life.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061008...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Yup, Foley not only liked to talk dirty, but likes to have sex with men and boys, period. The guy coming forward was at least the age of majority, but it does establish a behavior pattern which will definitely be used in the case against Foley. The Republicans are in major damage control as it also establishes prior knowledge of the behavior. My, what is Faux News and the Christian Coalition going to say about this now?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Uh oh. This scandal is starting to really come to life.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061008...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Yup, Foley not only liked to talk dirty, but likes to have sex with men and boys, period. The guy coming forward was at least the age of majority, but it does establish a behavior pattern which will definitely be used in the case against Foley. The Republicans are in major damage control as it also establishes prior knowledge of the behavior. My, what is Faux News and the Christian Coalition going to say about this now?

Where does it establish prior knowledge?

In any case, it is also being suggested that certain members of the House on the other side of the aisle were in the know for a significant period of time and did nothing hoping to maximize the political damage for the GOP.

Either way, it is a big mess.

[Flash Walken]

i also don't see how this article establishes prior-knowledge.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Where does it establish prior knowledge?

What, are you serious? Taken from another article, "The Times found the former page after others identified him as someone whose contacts with Foley went beyond graphic messages." Seems there is no doubt that others knew, but kept their mouths shut. This will not play well in the criminal investigation. As I stated, prior knowledge has now been established. It is going to be impossible for the Republicans to plead ignorance when other pages were well aware of the actions of Foley. That pledge of ignorance is not going to fly in a criminal investigation.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...adlines-nation

In any case, it is also being suggested that certain members of the House on the other side of the aisle were in the know for a significant period of time and did nothing hoping to maximize the political damage for the GOP.

Either way, it is a big mess.

Nice spin there. Where was this "suggested" and by whom? Something tells me thatcame from the GOP and is completely unsubstantiated. That's the old, "they knew about it so I can't be guilty" angle. Sorry Dis, doesn't fly in criminal actions. Foley committed the crime and now he has to pay the piper. The links through to Republican leadership will likely become very obvious as well.

Say, what did you think about Jeb Bush being forced to hide in a closet when trade unionists became verbally abusive while trying to lend his support to Rick Santorum? Is Santorum's political career almost dead as well?