07-17-2016, 09:39 AM
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First Line Centre
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3 Officers Dead, 3 Injured; 1 Suspect Dead - Baton Rouge, Louisiana
CNN @CNN
At least three U.S. officers are dead and 7 injured in a #BatonRouge, Louisiana shooting
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/754700783803895808
The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Authorities in Louisiana say 3 law enforcement officers dead, 3 injured in Baton Rouge; one suspect dead.
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Last edited by hockey.modern; 07-17-2016 at 10:32 AM.
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07-17-2016, 09:44 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Oh, great. I don't even have a response, other than... not again.
This just keeps happening. Eventually you run out of things to say.
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07-17-2016, 09:51 AM
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yeah, its just a conveyor belt for the US media at this point...
I guess the NRA will argue that the cops should have had two guns each? After all, more guns is making the US safer right?
edit: I fee bad for the families however...its just a terrible situation in the US wrt gun violence, but any rational person ought not be surprised...
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07-17-2016, 10:02 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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BLM related?
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07-17-2016, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
BLM related?
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It's being reported on as if that's the case but there's no apparent reason to think so.
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07-17-2016, 10:10 AM
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Fearmongerer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
BLM related?
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Not confirmed but very likely since Baton Rouge was where the Sterling shooting happened a couple weeks ago that helped set off this powder keg of violence we are seeing against cops.
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07-17-2016, 10:13 AM
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Also being discussed in ongoing mass shooting thread.
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07-17-2016, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Not confirmed but very likely since Baton Rouge was where the Sterling shooting happened a couple weeks ago that helped set off this powder keg of violence we are seeing against cops.
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This doesn't make it likely at all. They're cops, being involved in shooting incidents is part of their job. There are dozens of other possible explanations as to how police could be shot. Seems pretty irresponsible to jump to that conclusion.
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07-17-2016, 10:19 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
It's being reported on as if that's the case but there's no apparent reason to think so.
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The only way it is being reported as being the case - is giving the context of recent events in that area.
No one has stated what the motivations of the shooter were or anything.
Providing context is part of reporting.
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07-17-2016, 10:21 AM
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Sure, but when you spend three paragraphs saying "Shooting happened, here are the details we know, 3 dead 8 wounded", and then three paragraphs talking about tension between the black community and police arising out of an earlier police shooting, it's pretty clear what's being implied there. It's not context for the shooting until there's an established link between the event and what you're suggesting is the "context" for it.
If I was going to bet - and I'm not - this ends up being drug, gang, or otherwise non-political gun violence that led to police intervention in the course of doing their jobs, and went badly.
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07-17-2016, 10:24 AM
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Jesus CHL you make everything so diificult.
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07-17-2016, 10:24 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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I'm not going to get into a silly argument with a contrarion when lives have been lost
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07-17-2016, 10:25 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Jesus CHL you make everything so diificult.
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Yeah man. God forbid I want to wait for actual facts before speculating and jumping to conclusions. To hell with sober rational thought, let's get those pitchforks.
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07-17-2016, 10:28 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Pitchforks for who? What are you even talking about?
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07-17-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah man. God forbid I want to wait for actual facts before speculating and jumping to conclusions. To hell with sober rational thought, let's get those pitchforks.
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So let me get this straight. If a bomb went off in America tomorrow would you not automatically assume Islamic terrorism?
I bet the news stations would immediately make that link and so would you and you'd have no problem with that.
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07-17-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Pitchforks for who? What are you even talking about?
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Not jumping to the conclusion that this shooting is a repeat of Dallas. Was that not clear?
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07-17-2016, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
So let me get this straight. If a bomb went off in America tomorrow would you not automatically assume Islamic terrorism?
I bet the news stations would immediately make that link and so would you and you'd have no problem with that.
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The pattern of Islamic terrorism is a little stronger, I would say.
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07-17-2016, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
The pattern of Islamic terrorism is a little stronger, I would say.
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A lot stronger but it still makes sense to link incidents to other similar incidents in such a short time frame.
Two situations where multiple cops are shot and killed will always be linked and CHL knows that but he just loves getting into arguments where his words per post exceeds 2000 words and no one bothers reading it anymore and he wins.
Seriously every news station reporting this in the world will make that connection. They'd be doing their viewers a disservice if they didn't.
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07-17-2016, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
A lot stronger but it still makes sense to link incidents to other similar incidents in such a short time frame.
Two situations where multiple cops are shot and killed will always be linked and CHL knows that but he just loves getting into arguments where his words per post exceeds 2000 words and no one bothers reading it anymore and he wins.
Seriously every news station reporting this in the world will make that connection. They'd be doing their viewers a disservice if they didn't.
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I really don't think that's fair. Sometimes it's really hard to gauge the position of the forum. Had CHL assumed a relation to BLM, I think posters would have jumped on him for drawing conclusions to early.
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07-17-2016, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Seriously every news station reporting this in the world will make that connection. They'd be doing their viewers a disservice if they didn't.
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I think it's highly simplistic, and does viewers and the public a disservice. I'm trying to keep up with what's going on here and half of what I see is basically accusing BLM of being a terrorist organization when there's nothing linking them to this. I'm not a big fan of BLM's tactics, but they don't have a history of killing people for their cause and this is not exactly the best note to be playing in advance of the powder keg that could very well be ignited in Cleveland next week.
And I'm sorry you don't like reading but I'm not going to tailor my posting to your tastes. There's an ignore feature, go nuts.
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