Last thing on the checklist - Sign Monahan and Gaudreau

[darthma]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose.

Your post is pure speculation!!!

[ricardodw]

What would be the biggest problem playing in Calgary?

Calgary has the #4 worst travel schedule in the league. Last year they traveled 48,341 miles.

There were 11 teams that traveled 10,000 miles less than the Flames.

Who does not travel well?

Johnny Gaudreau... he had 7 pts 5 on 5 on the road ....tied with Jokipakka for 305th spot in the league.

As for pts per 60 minutes of ice time 5 on 5 he was ranked 354th tied with Jeff Petry


Johnny Hockey lead the league with 38 pts 5 on 5 at home..... second was Sid Crosby with 32.

Both Gaudreau's camp (agents, families) and the Flames have to be somewhat worried about the awful road performance..... and how much it is related to travel.

Had he been able to do even half as well on the road as home (19 pts) as the Flames 2nd worst road warrior Monahan did, he would have added 12 pts to his total and been 2nd in scoring with 90 pts.

Does playing in Calgary reduce the chances Gaudreau of winning the Hart and Art Ross and making All star teams?

[Freeway]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a second and bear in mind I have way crappier sources (and fewer of them) than Roger does. Aside from signing his entry-level deal here right out of college, back when there was a great deal of uncertainty regarding what Gaudreau could become at the NHL level, what has Gaudreau done to indicate that he's committed to playing in Calgary long-term?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

If there wasn't a vast history of Roger Millions insider knowledge and "gut" feelings being so consistently off base people wouldn't react this way.

If someone here started archiving all his misses it would be staggering. Even the small stuff like tweeting out an incorrect pronunciation of Nakladal after the correct one had been established.

My favourite: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=44126

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Does playing in Calgary reduce the chances Gaudreau of winning the Hart and Art Ross and making All star teams?

No. However, playing in Calgary seems to increase the chances of you irrationally criticizing him.

Give him a break. He's 22. He's one of the best players in the world. Nobody is concerned.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by getbak

My favourite: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=44126

My Favorite is when he said Colborne would without a doubt file for arbitration after the Flames didn't qualify him.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

No. However, playing in Calgary seems to increase the chances of you irrationally criticizing him.

Give him a break. He's 22. He's one of the best players in the world. Nobody is concerned.

Are you satisfied with his 7 pts on the road?

Is that an irrational criticism?


Gaudreau is in the top 6 in the world ..... when playing at home....

He is coming off the worst elite player season on the road last year, perhaps in the history of hockey.

Based on last years performance: At home he is a 10M player, on the road he is a 1M player

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Freeway

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a second and bear in mind I have way crappier sources (and fewer of them) than Roger does. Aside from signing his entry-level deal here right out of college, back when there was a great deal of uncertainty regarding what Gaudreau could become at the NHL level, what has Gaudreau done to indicate that he's committed to playing in Calgary long-term?

“I could see us [Gaudreau/Monahan] playing together for the next 10 years,” Gaudreau said this week. “That’s how much I like playing with that guy.”

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...-contract-rfa/


“It’s the summer time so I don’t think I need to worry about it too much,” Gaudreau said. “It would be nice to have it done but my agent and Brad obviously know what they are doing so I’m not really sure when it’s going to happen. When it’s done I’ll be excited about it and look forward to next season."

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=878756



In response to an April Fools joke saying he wants to go elsewhere:



http://www.cjay92.com/blogs/dan-chen...pril-fools-day



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Both sides have given every indication it will get done. It's unfortunate that with each passing day the paranoia will mount within the portion of the fanbase who can't help but worry over everything... but it's going to get done.

The Flames believed in Johnny when no one else did and have treated him well every step along the way. He's going to be here for a long time.

[calgaryblood]

^Ricardow

Gaudreau had 22 points on the road which is still not impressive but at least get your numbers right.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you satisfied with his 7 pts on the road?

Is that an irrational criticism?


Gaudreau is in the top 6 in the world ..... when playing at home....

He is coming off the worst elite player season on the road last year, perhaps in the history of hockey.

Based on last years performance: At home he is a 10M player, on the road he is a 1M player

Can you take a break for a day?

Good lord. The kid is in his 2nd pro season.

If we were talking about a 26 year old with several seasons, you might have a point. But if he didn't have things to work on (like scoring on the road) he'd be an art ross caliber player and we'd be looking at max money / term right now.

As always, you are completely devoid of any context and banging your head against the wall over something that makes no sense.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you satisfied with his 7 pts on the road?



Is that an irrational criticism?





Gaudreau is in the top 6 in the world ..... when playing at home....



He is coming off the worst elite player season on the road last year, perhaps in the history of hockey.



Based on last years performance: At home he is a 10M player, on the road he is a 1M player

And you've concluded this is because of travel? Not match ups?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

“I could see us [Gaudreau/Monahan] playing together for the next 10 years,” Gaudreau said this week. “That’s how much I like playing with that guy.”

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...-contract-rfa/


“It’s the summer time so I don’t think I need to worry about it too much,” Gaudreau said. “It would be nice to have it done but my agent and Brad obviously know what they are doing so I’m not really sure when it’s going to happen. When it’s done I’ll be excited about it and look forward to next season."

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=878756



In response to an April Fools joke saying he wants to go elsewhere:



http://www.cjay92.com/blogs/dan-chen...pril-fools-day



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Both sides have given every indication it will get done. It's unfortunate that with each passing day the paranoia will mount within the portion of the fanbase who can't help but worry over everything... but it's going to get done.

The Flames believed in Johnny when no one else did and have treated him well every step along the way. He's going to be here for a long time.

Both sides want to get it done, that's not in dispute. What is in dispute is term. Specifically, Johnny may not want it and Brad likely would. Your quotes do nothing to dispel the current concern of him wanting a shorter deal so he can go out east some rather than later. Him wanting to be in a Flames uniform next year is not part of the concern.


No one is "chicken littling" here. The sky isn't falling. It's not absurd to wonder if being here long term isn't in his plans. If not? Well that's not going to be the next few seasons. It's not unreasonable to speculate that's what's holding up the contract and that also would not preclude a deal getting done, just closer to a deadline and someone has to compromise (aka training camp).

[nik-]

From this thread I've learned that an extra 30 minutes in a chartered plane every few days makes players much worse and as a result they want to leave town.

Fold the team

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Both sides want to get it done, that's not in dispute. What is in dispute is term. Specifically, Johnny may not want it and Brad likely would. Your quotes do nothing to dispel the current concern of him wanting a shorter deal so he can go out east some rather than later. Him wanting to be in a Flames uniform next year is not part of the concern.


No one is "chicken littling" here. The sky isn't falling. It's not absurd to wonder if being here long term isn't in his plans. If not? Well that's not going to be the next few seasons. It's not unreasonable to speculate that's what's holding up the contract and that also would not preclude a deal getting done, just closer to a deadline and someone has to compromise (aka training camp).

You are entitled to your opinion I suppose but please don't talk in absolutes when you say what they are negotiating is term unless you have a source you'd like to share.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Both sides want to get it done, that's not in dispute. What is in dispute is term. Specifically, Johnny may not want it and Brad likely would. Your quotes do nothing to dispel the current concern of him wanting a shorter deal so he can go out east some rather than later. Him wanting to be in a Flames uniform next year is not part of the concern.


No one is "chicken littling" here. The sky isn't falling. It's not absurd to wonder if being here long term isn't in his plans. If not? Well that's not going to be the next few seasons. It's not unreasonable to speculate that's what's holding up the contract and that also would not preclude a deal getting done, just closer to a deadline and someone has to compromise (aka training camp).

He's alluded several times he wants to be here for long time, including in one of the quotes above.

There are always people "Chicken littling" here, on just about every topic. For a select few, they live in a constant state of chicken littling.


Lastly, you are the guy who told everyone there was "no way" Stamkos was staying in Tampa because it would have been done sooner rather than later. I'm not big on your idea of what is and isn't fair discussion.

[blender]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you satisfied with his 7 pts on the road?

Is that an irrational criticism?


Gaudreau is in the top 6 in the world ..... when playing at home....

He is coming off the worst elite player season on the road last year, perhaps in the history of hockey.

Based on last years performance: At home he is a 10M player, on the road he is a 1M player

Flames were (are) a one-line team. Pretty tough to generate offense on the road when you don't have many way to escape top d-pairs and shutdown forwards.
Or all the out of town partying is hurting his production! I'd say it is time to start scooping out each others brains here!

[Roof-Daddy]

How many years would it take to get Johnny to his first year of UFA?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

^Ricardow

Gaudreau had 22 points on the road which is still not impressive but at least get your numbers right.

I am using 5 on 5 stats He was the highest scoring player 5 on 5 at home in the league... by a lot

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you satisfied with his 7 pts on the road?

Is that an irrational criticism?


Gaudreau is in the top 6 in the world ..... when playing at home....

He is coming off the worst elite player season on the road last year, perhaps in the history of hockey.

Based on last years performance: At home he is a 10M player, on the road he is a 1M player

Yes the lack of points on the road is slightly concerning, but not once have you acknowledged that perhaps it's because he is consistently playing against the other teams top shutdown pairing every single shift on the road. At home, the Flames have last change so they're able to throw him out there against weaker players...

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

You are entitled to your opinion I suppose but please don't talk in absolutes when you say what they are negotiating is term unless you have a source you'd like to share.

Where did I speak in absolutes? And if you don't like how I post, there's an ignore function. I'm not taking direction from you thanks.