[Signing] Flames sign Brouwer (4 yrs, $4.5mil AAV, NTC)

[Lanny_McDonald]

Great contract for the Flames! Was hoping for a 5th year to bring the cap hit down a bit, but pretty well called the numbers. Treliving is really doing a great job addressing the needs of the team. I was a little concerned after the draft when he came away a little short on the RW, but this signing covers that need for a three years at worst. Great job Mr. Treliving!

[EVERLAST]

Okay so he has steadily improved yearly on face offs so this is a bonus.

We need a dominant guy there. I thought he did well this playoffs.

57% !!

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I really don't think they are. Consider style and role alone. Not to mention that Glencross was notorious for checking out mentally for stretches of games. The majority of his points came in the 40% of the season he gave a ####. Once put on a contender in Washington he was lost because that kind of effort and attitude will not put you into big game situations.

Brouwer is the antithesis of a Glencross. 100% for all 82+, plays a physical and aggressive style, gets the hard-nosed goals that you need to win a game 7 against a team like the Blackhawks, and can be put anywhere in the lineup.

I just don't believe there is any real comparison to be made there, sorry.

Classic case of grass is always greener on the other side. The player who played for you will always be the lazy one who took shifts/games off, the player you saw once in a while against the likes of Kris Russell is tough-and-mean. I get that Brouwer had a good game 7 - but it was one game. Stajan had a good game 6 against the Canucks - does that mean he earned his contract with it?

Any time people make claims like this it's rare they back it up. Even Ricardo's dumb damn Grit Index would probably show they're not as far apart over an 82 game season as it sounds.

[AC]

Brouwer's goal highlights:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8471426

Holy poop look at this goal


Speed, drives the net, snipes it
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...015020584-93-h

Another snipe
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...15020461-363-h

Drives the net, good hands out of the air

[DoubleK]

I love it.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by devo22

oh yeah, what a ####ty signing. I'll give it 10 games before everybody loves that guy. Fills a MAJOR need on this team.

Exactly.

I know I said it time and time again in the Elliot thread, but I'll repeat it here. I watched a lot of the Blues last year. Brouwer brings so much more than what's on the stat sheet. I don't even mean stuff like 'good locker room guy' (Although by all accounts he is) but quite simply, even when he's not getting points, the guy is an absolute force on the ice.

[Wood]

Brouwer is a perfect fit, I can't wait for him to win people over

Its a fair contract, and 4 years is as good as anyone could have expected

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Just like Bryan Bickell.

Bickell has had 1 30 point season, Brouwer has had 7

Since the lockout Lucic has averaged 44 points a season, Brouwer has averaged 40 points a season. Backes
Backes has averaged 47 points. This is a pretty good signing.

[thefoss1957]

Was never much of a Brouwer fan...for my guys, he could never rise above 4th line, and he didn't seem to bring anything special...did like him, a little better, than two of the other B's, Bickell and Burish, but, none of the three impressed, particularly, during their Chicago tenure. I really didn't follow Brouwer much, after he went east, I don't see a lot of that conference, but, even seeing his brief work with the Blues, I didn't see a top 6 forward, what I saw was another short term Bickell like burst to get a pay day.

[Par]

Good signing, if you want Johnny to go to war against Lucic, Maroon, or Kassian, or Nurse, then you need Brouwer. #### the Oilers are tougher than us.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Well Burke has come out and said he isn't giving a NMC to any player.

I think we can expect a limited NTC.

Burke is full of something brown and smelly, I bet Gaudreau will get a NMC.

[1qqaaz]

I hope they just throw him on the top line. He can bring the physicality/decent offence that they need.

Hopefully Tkachuk can eventually take the spot.

[Apollo]

Here's how I see our lineup. Brouwer mentioned wanting to mentor and help develop Bennett. He will be a good vet presence on our team. I see Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer on the same line and punishing the other team. Bouma is reportedly on the trading Block. Assuming he gets traded, Ferland would take over his position. I see Jankowski making the team and Stajan being a backup or helping guys development in Stockton.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Frolik
Shinkaruk-Backlund-Chiasson
Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer
Ferland/Bouma-Jankowski-Hathaway

Extra Stajan

[CliffFletcher]

Brouwer fills several needs for the Flames. Size. RW. Right shot. Mean. Secondary scoring. Leadership. Playoff experience. And he can play up and down the lineup. You gotta pay UFAs, and the reason the Flames needed to go to an UFA is because they didn't have a player in the system who could fill those needs.

Flames biggest needs this off-season were RW and goal. Treliving addressed both of those needs and gave up minimum assets to do it. He's having a great offseason.

[zyzz]

4.5 million for a role player? This one is going to reek. If he's worth 4.5, our stars are worth almost 9!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I hope they just throw him on the top line. He can bring the physicality/decent offence that they need.

Hopefully Tkachuk can eventually take the spot.

He's not a top line guy.

Guess it beats having Ferland up there though

[browna]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

It's an embarrassing thing for GranteedEV to post, one of those posts that makes you question any hockey knowledge you thought he had.

He's not a fan. Just someone trying to sound superior and authoritative on a message board and using supposed irrefutable statistics as the sole basis of any argument. Just decided to be the Flames roster that's he's chosen in fighting the battle with.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

If the hero chart is telling you glencross and brouwer are similar I would take that as a sign the methodology is flawed.

I cannot articulate where the methodology is flawed, but I would hazard glencross not being able to make a roster on a PTO and brouwer being contacted for a contract by multiple teams in the first hour of free agency points to an error.

Personally, I think the comparison of Glencross in 2015-16 to Brower in 2015-16 is telling:

[Ashasx]

I don't like this contract not because it is crippling, but it's just creates another problem to work around when it comes time to pay your star players.

I just don't think bottom 6 role players, even if they are character guys, should be on contracts this large.

[MarkGio]

Such a bad contract. We already tried guys like Raymond and Stajan and Engelland