[Trade] Oilers trade Taylor Hall to NJ for Adam Larsson. 1 For 1.

[browna]

At the same time, this is all that Chirelli can pull off. He has to lose trades pretty plainly in order to shakeup the collection of forwards that Lowe assembled, in hopes of kickstarting the attitude change that McClellan experienced last year.

Players aren't waiving NMC to go there, so you have to find ones that dont have them, which limits the pool.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Hall is feeling slighted by the Oilers...

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2...ileshort_index

Yes, Taylor. It is that Edmonton didn't want you.

[robaur]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Guess I'm in the minority but I think the coilers did well.

Hall was dead space on that team and Larsson fills a huge need. He's also young and on a good contract. If Larsson turns out to be a dud then it'll be a bad trade. If he works out - even as a Vlasic type who doesn't put up a lot of points - then they are a much better team IMO.

Dead space? Being almost point per game is considered dead space?

You know Hall is the only one other than McDavid who has even come close to living up to the hype of being a No. 1 Pick overall.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Guess I'm in the minority but I think the coilers did well.

Hall was dead space on that team and Larsson fills a huge need. He's also young and on a good contract. If Larsson turns out to be a dud then it'll be a bad trade. If he works out - even as a Vlasic type who doesn't put up a lot of points - then they are a much better team IMO.

Actually it seems that a higher percentage of posters on this board are liking this for Oilers than other boards.

We don't have the attachment to the player that Oiler fans do and we see him a lot more than other teams fans do as a result of sharing the TV market.

If anything, there should be a propensity here to want to mock this trade, so the fact that there's support for it in any sense is telling.

[devo22]

Auston Statthews ‏@statssundin
So Chiarelli has traded away:
Hall
Pick #16 (Barzal)
Pick #33
Marincin

And got back:
Reinhart
Larsson
B. Ross
4th rounder

Just brutal.

[nik-]

That's quite the body of work.

He got there for a Cup win in Boston, but then locked up a bunch of aging players and drove that team into the ground. What can he do with a team that's already into the ground? The possibilities are endless.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by nik-

Actually it seems that a higher percentage of posters on this board are liking this for Oilers than other boards.

We don't have the attachment to the player that Oiler fans do and we see him a lot more than other teams fans do as a result of sharing the TV market.

If anything, there should be a propensity here to want to mock this trade, so the fact that there's support for it in any sense is telling.

There is also an anti Hall slant we have as flames fans. We have looked at his flaws for 6 years so while the Oiler fans look through roses colored glasses we are the opposite. Not too many on here thought Hall was a legit superstar but Oiler fans thought of him that way.

I think it is a bad trade on paper but the Oilers needed to get a Dman. I just hope they hate the trade 3 years from now as much as they do today.

[old-fart]

Think of it this way:

Chia just traded away Taylor Hall for a defenceman that would slot into the number 4 slot on the other team in the province (the Flames). Edmonton still has no bonafide number 1 or number 2 d-man and now has no blue chip trade piece, other than McDavid (which they aren't trading).

If Taylor Hall gets you a decent second pair guy with virtually zero offence, what do RNH, Eberle and Yakapov get you? Left over pizza crusts?

Coilers will need to overpay huge on Friday to try and remotely shore up that mess, which buys them MAYBE a two year window to be decent, before salary increases to McDavid, Nurse, etc kill them yet again for the 5th? 6th? rebuild in the past 15 years.

They truly are no good.

[nik-]

Hamilton and Larsson would actually be a pretty nice pairing

[Regular_John]

I've said it before, the Oilers squandered Hall's talent & drive since they drafted him. He was a highly motivated winner in juniors, and the Oiler's transformed him to a rather complacent drifter over the years.

I'm hoping this trade puts a fire in his belly and we start seeing more of the Hall who won the memorial cup... after eating some boards.

[blender]

Originally Posted by nik-

Hamilton and Larsson would actually be a pretty nice pairing

Exactly, 3/4.

[Weitz]

I must say if future hall of famer Ken Danyko thinks Larrson is a top pairing d man I am sold.

[jschick88]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I must say if future hall of famer Ken Danyko thinks Larrson is a top pairing d man I am sold.

Jim?

Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty 33 minutes ago
If Ken Danyeko, who knows D-men, says Adam Larsson is a top pairing NHL D-man, that's good enough for me. Says he's equal of Hamonic

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I must say if future hall of famer Ken Danyko thinks Larrson is a top pairing d man I am sold.

Well he's obviously top pairing on the Oilers. The competition for that slot isn't exactly what you would call "terrific" though. An orange traffic cone would probably slot in at number 3, and a chair with a blow up doll would be number 5.

[schteve_d]

I apologize if this has been mentioned as this thread got away quickly and I just couldn't catch up with it all! Anyway, can you imagine the pressure and expectations that are going to be placed on Larsson right off the hop from the Oil faithful? That poor kid isn't going to know what hit him!

[Weitz]

He played the tough situations in NJ?

All the situations are tough in Edmonton.

[iloveicedhockey]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Jim?

Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty 33 minutes ago
If Ken Danyeko, who knows D-men, says Adam Larsson is a top pairing NHL D-man, that's good enough for me. Says he's equal of Hamonic

I saw this. He says 'he's equal of Hamonic' and 'he's Hamonic, without the edge'. Did he forget that Hamonic is a solid second pairing defenceman?

[Vinny01]

Dougie Hamilton played tough minutes in Boston before we acquired him yet he had a bit of a rough ride adjusting to the west. Larson is likely in for an even more difficult adjustment as they don't have any way to shelter him unlike the Flames with Gio and Brodie

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

No offense but you're the last person to give a remotely objective account of an Oiler/former Oiler.

Yeah, but my opeinion of the Oilers comes from a place of truth and pure logic.

They're easy to make fun of because they're bad.

Taylor Hall is horrid defensively because he simply is.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by robaur

Jamie Benn
Alexander Ovechkin
Johnny Gaudreau
Artemi Panarin
Max Pacioretty
Filip Forsberg
Jonathan Huberdeau
Brad Marchand
Mike Hoffman
Zach Parise
Gabriel Landeskog
Alexander Steen
Patrick Sharp
Ondrej Palat

if you talking about hockey players and evaluating all aspects of the game...

Don't even know why I bother... this post is absolutely absurd.