06-26-2016, 08:27 AM
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#21
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by John Doe
Well, since I much would rather have Backlund with his salary as a 2/3 centre than RNH with his salary and would rather not have Eberle at all, "someone else" had better be McDavid.
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What do you guys think of Hamilton ? Not sure about him yet. Not too noticeable like a Brodie
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06-26-2016, 08:30 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cantrader
What do you guys think of Hamilton ? Not sure about him yet. Not too noticeable like a Brodie
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You didn't notice him setting career highs in goals and points as a Flame last season?
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06-26-2016, 08:30 AM
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#23
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrader
What do you guys think of Hamilton ? Not sure about him yet. Not too noticeable like a Brodie
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Hamilton is also younger and still developing
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06-26-2016, 08:30 AM
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#24
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Nuge is hurt all the time, not sure why the Wild are targeting him. Id be asking for more than RNH.
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06-26-2016, 08:32 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrader
What do you guys think of Hamilton ? Not sure about him yet. Not too noticeable like a Brodie
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had a poor first month or two while adjusting to the system and playing in the west, but much improved in the second half of the season. Cornerstone defenseman and a steal for what BT had to pay.
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06-26-2016, 08:38 AM
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#26
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Cantrader
What do you guys think of Hamilton ? Not sure about him yet. Not too noticeable like a Brodie
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You should try watching him then.
And please, come up with more trade proposals that dramatically improve the Oilers whilst simultaneously setting us back three years.
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06-26-2016, 09:04 AM
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#27
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
You should try watching him then.
And please, come up with more trade proposals that dramatically improve the Oilers whilst simultaneously setting us back three years.
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Looks like a fresh crop of trolls has sprouted post-draft.
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06-26-2016, 10:02 AM
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I really think the oilers should be pursuing guys that are already established dmen that can hold up a top 2 pairing themselves. Getting a young dman who is still growing into this role may be a bad idea, especially considering the oilers lack any vet leadership to help develop their d prospects along. they should be trying to overpay for a dman in his prime than young developing guys.
How much can they overpay for a suter? How about a staal or McDonough from nyr? It is time for a bold move already. They have SIX top 5 picks in their forward crop. I don't see why how a hall+Eberle or rnh doesn't buy you immediate d help. Either the rest of the league sees too little value in these forwards in which case the rebuild is truly a joke for the ages or the oiler brass over values these guys which would fall in line with the foregone conclusion that oilers management are flat out stupid.
What a joke of a franchise.
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06-26-2016, 10:12 AM
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#29
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
How much can they overpay for a suter? How about a stall or McDonough from nyr? It is time for a bold move already. They have SIX top 5 picks in their forward crop. I don't see why how a hall+Eberle or rnh doesn't buy you immediate d help. Either the rest of the league sees too little value in these forwards in which case the rebuild is truly a joke for the ages or the oiler brass over values these guys which would fall in line with the foregone conclusion that oilers management are flat out stupid.
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I think both of these are true, and thus they are truly screwed. I think that's why they couldn't get Subban, any package without McDavid was useless.
The only hope for them is if their forward group finally gets it together and they get some help on D.
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What a joke of a franchise.
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Amen.
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06-26-2016, 10:41 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
I think both of these are true, and thus they are truly screwed. I think that's why they couldn't get Subban, any package without McDavid was useless.
The only hope for them is if their forward group finally gets it together and they get some help on D.
Amen.
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That forward group? The new guys that are replacing the old guard? That has to be one fractured team that really doesn't want to play for each other. The oilers have completely wasted all that talent from previous rebuilds and are now still trying to grab some more magical forwards. Even after this draft the team is still flawed; They were so selfish that they couldn't do the right thing and add a defensman {so they could start to complete their team}. Instead they just had to be better than the rest of the league and grab another skilled forward.
They could trade a couple players but I am pretty sure that team hates to play together. Looks from here like the oilers are trying another rebuild from McDavid on out but that has to pissing the guys getting pushed out. If the team falters, I wouldn't be surprised if the GM, or coach gets the boot and the oilers grab another first round pick next season!
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06-26-2016, 10:54 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Great, they will probably trade RNH for Dumba, can't wait to see the stupid Oiler posts like Dumba>>>>Brodie. You know its coming.
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06-26-2016, 11:02 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Great, they will probably trade RNH for Dumba, can't wait to see the stupid Oiler posts like Dumba>>>>Brodie. You know its coming.
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Yup it is, but who cares really... Oilers fans don't have a clue what they're talking about. They are literally one of the most uneducated fan bases out there.
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06-26-2016, 11:09 AM
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#33
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by New Era
Only Edmonton would let a 2nd round pick stand in the way of filling a massive hole on their team. They need to take one in the shorts and move on. It is past the point of sad and pathetic at this point.
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Fully agree so well said. Sounds like Edmonton dropped the ball yesterday. RNH+pick 34 for Dumba would have been quite fair and been an immediate win for Oilers.
Seeing McTavish sitting right next to Chiarelli at draft made me realize things haven't changed in Edmonton enough yet.
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06-26-2016, 11:13 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Estonia
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Yup it is, but who cares really... Oilers fans don't have a clue what they're talking about. They are literally one of the most uneducated fan bases out there.
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Link?
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06-26-2016, 11:14 AM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
I really think the oilers should be pursuing guys that are already established dmen that can hold up a top 2 pairing themselves. Getting a young dman who is still growing into this role may be a bad idea, especially considering the oilers lack any vet leadership to help develop their d prospects along. they should be trying to overpay for a dman in his prime than young developing guys.
How much can they overpay for a suter? How about a staal or McDonough from nyr? It is time for a bold move already. They have SIX top 5 picks in their forward crop. I don't see why how a hall+Eberle or rnh doesn't buy you immediate d help. Either the rest of the league sees too little value in these forwards in which case the rebuild is truly a joke for the ages or the oiler brass over values these guys which would fall in line with the foregone conclusion that oilers management are flat out stupid.
What a joke of a franchise.
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established d men like these guys more than likely have some No trade clause, and these guys arent waiving to go to edmonton, even with Mcdavid. they need to go for the young developing guys.
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06-26-2016, 11:36 AM
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#36
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Great, they will probably trade RNH for Dumba, can't wait to see the stupid Oiler posts like Dumba>>>>Brodie. You know its coming.
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If they collectively believe that Klefbom is a budding #1 defenseman just imagine how high they will project a player like Dumba.
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06-26-2016, 11:42 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
If they collectively believe that Klefbom is a budding #1 defenseman just imagine how high they will project a player like Dumba.
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The same as was done for future multiple Norris winner, J Schultz.
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06-26-2016, 12:04 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by KevanGuy
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http://www.google.ca
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06-26-2016, 12:04 PM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by KevanGuy
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I think we can all take Judicial Interpretation to this as fact.
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06-26-2016, 12:11 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
If they collectively believe that Klefbom is a budding #1 defenseman just imagine how high they will project a player like Dumba.
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I actually like Klefbom. Good size, mobility, awareness. But he is at best a middle pairing guy right now. He has the potential to become a number 1 but is at least 2 or 3 full years away. It took Brodie a good 4 seasons in the NHL after a few years in junior and the AHL to get where he's at. Patience is the key and the Oilers have 0. Just take his contract. Klefbom is making $500,000 less than Brodie right now, that is nuts. But after Klefbom I don't like any of their D prospects. Nurse is a less offensively gifted Phaneuf with even less smarts. Reinhart is a career #6/7. Davidson will likely max out at a middle-bottom pairing guy. When your future D prospects looks like that and you have an offer of RNH + 2nd for Dumba you take it and run. Chiarelli is an idiot.
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