[News] With the 2016 6th OA pick Flames select LW Matthew Tkachuk

[loob job]

I was at the draft. As soon as it was Columbus pick they talked to Edmonton on the phone right away. Quick conversation. Then Columbus called Calgary. Another quick conversation. Then they made the pick. Same thing happened when Vancouver was up they talked to Calgary right away before making pick. Obviously nothing came of it but it was interesting a lot of jockeying.

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by loob job

I was at the draft. As soon as it was Columbus pick they talked to Edmonton on the phone right away. Quick conversation. Then Columbus called Calgary. Another quick conversation. Then they made the pick. Same thing happened when Vancouver was up they talked to Calgary right away before making pick. Obviously nothing came of it but it was interesting a lot of jockeying.

Hang on, how do you know who called who?

[BruceCody]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Gaudreau - Monahan
Tkachuk - Bennett

Mangiapane - Jankowski
add to this

[bubbsy]

It would be awesome if shinkaruk, klimchuk, poirier, and/or ferland, grow into roles as top9 wingers.

[BigJim]

Serious question here. As I haven't seen Tkachuk play and only know what people have been saying about him, on here and elsewhere, can someone tell me how he is different that Greg Nemisz, the last power forward the Flames drafted from a really good junior team? Nemisz was a monumental bust and some have said Tkachuk is over-rated because of this fact, but he seems to be described as having great hands and vision for a power guy. Anyone with insight on this?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by BigJim

Serious question here. As I haven't seen Tkachuk play and only know what people have been saying about him, on here and elsewhere, can someone tell me how he is different that Greg Nemisz, the last power forward the Flames drafted from a really good junior team? Nemisz was a monumental bust and some have said Tkachuk is over-rated because of this fact, but he seems to be described as having great hands and vision for a power guy. Anyone with insight on this?

IMO Hockey IQ. Tkachuk is a smarter player than Nemisz, he can read plays better and knows where to be.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by BigJim

Serious question here. As I haven't seen Tkachuk play and only know what people have been saying about him, on here and elsewhere, can someone tell me how he is different that Greg Nemisz, the last power forward the Flames drafted from a really good junior team? Nemisz was a monumental bust and some have said Tkachuk is over-rated because of this fact, but he seems to be described as having great hands and vision for a power guy. Anyone with insight on this?

I would say Tkachuk's greatest assets are his offensive awareness and hockey IQ. These things were Nemisz's greatest weaknesses. This is part of the reason that Tkachuk had almost twice the points per game that Nemisz had.

At the end of the day, I'd say Nemisz had more attributes that set him into checking roles. Tkachuk is an actual offensive power forward.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by driveway

Probably already been linked earlier in the thread, but totally a worthwhile listen to latecomers:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/calgary-...mes-selection/

"(My friends and family) are smart hockey people so they know what's good and what's maybe not so good, so they know Calgary is the spot to be."

Edmonton = not so good

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by BigJim

Serious question here. As I haven't seen Tkachuk play and only know what people have been saying about him, on here and elsewhere, can someone tell me how he is different that Greg Nemisz, the last power forward the Flames drafted from a really good junior team? Nemisz was a monumental bust and some have said Tkachuk is over-rated because of this fact, but he seems to be described as having great hands and vision for a power guy. Anyone with insight on this?

Tkachuk was highly regarded before he got to London. He out up big points with the US program as well.

[killer_carlson]

Is there any video of Treliving, Conroy, Burke, Pascal, Button's reaction when Columbus made their pick?

Or when Vancouver picked the defenceman?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

What the scouts say:

"Matthew is a real hard skilled player. He plays hard in the hard areas," director of amateur scouting Tod Button explained. "We call him an ‘inside-the-dots’ player. He’s got really good hands and he can make good plays in traffic. He’s got really, really soft hands and he can make soft little passes in tight areas which is a skill in itself. But he can also play hard. He can get the shot off in traffic when guys are cross-checking him and hacking him. He’s always in the mix and always in the middle. It’s a hard game he plays. He plays hard and it’s not easy to succeed that way.

"He’s got a great compliment in the two guys he plays with but he adds a lot to that line with his physicality and creating space for those guys. You look at his overall game and you think skill up and down the ice … maybe not so much but below the dots, he can play."

Gay Porn Hard!!!

NSFW!

[Tinordi]

Tkachuk is nothing like Nemisz in that Tkachuk is good and Nemisz is bad.

[UKflames]

Really pleased to wake up to this pick this morning. Bummed that the Oilers got one of the (perceived) top 3 and will now ruin him but you can't have everything I suppose.

We are shaping up nicely.

[JohnnyTitan]

Originally Posted by vulcan

As for the Oil getting Puljujarvi, I look at as fools gold. They needed defence and came away with no deals and no defencemen.

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Truly a great day to be a Flames fan. Flames in two moves managed to address their issue on the wing and their need in goal.

Oilers still need multiple defensemen, MULTIPLE. It's actually hilarious they were again forced to take BPA which was a forward. Amazing.

[JohnnyTitan]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Really pleased to wake up to this pick this morning. Bummed that the Oilers got one of the (perceived) top 3 and will now ruin him but you can't have everything I suppose.

We are shaping up nicely.

Haha. Since the Oilers took Poolboy and we got Tkachuk -> one thing is certain: Matthew Tkachuk will have a much better career than Puljujarvi!

[loob job]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

Hang on, how do you know who called who?

It's not hard when you see someone pick up the phone and two seconds later the gm three tables over picks it up and they hang up at the same time

[icecube]

Originally Posted by BigJim

Serious question here. As I haven't seen Tkachuk play and only know what people have been saying about him, on here and elsewhere, can someone tell me how he is different that Greg Nemisz, the last power forward the Flames drafted from a really good junior team? Nemisz was a monumental bust and some have said Tkachuk is over-rated because of this fact, but he seems to be described as having great hands and vision for a power guy. Anyone with insight on this?

Watch Tkachuk play for two mins and you can see the difference. Even someone who hasn't watched hockey before would notice. Tkachuk is a stud and Nemisz was a turd.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by JohnnyTitan

Hahaha we were laughing at that graphic last night. And the one before it was "haven't made playoffs in 10 years". Sports net trolling.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by icecube

Watch Tkachuk play for two mins and you can see the difference. Even someone who hasn't watched hockey before would notice. Tkachuk is a stud and Nemisz was a turd.

Nemisz wasn't half as intense as Tkachuk. And even though they say Tkachuk's weakness is skating, his skating it still decent compared to Nemisz.

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by loob job

It's not hard when you see someone pick up the phone and two seconds later the gm three tables over picks it up and they hang up at the same time

But there are 30 tables and probably multiple teams making calls at the same time. How can you be sure the calls weren't going on with other tables that you weren't watching?