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Old 06-01-2016, 04:59 AM   #1
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Flames How would you feel if the Flames signed Carlyle?

There seems to be alot of rumors connecting Carlyle to Calgary and he has apparently already had 2 interviews with the team. How would you feel if he came to Calgary.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:15 AM   #2
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His style doesn't fit this team and I can see a disaster/setback but we sure would know who really runs this team if he is hired.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:19 AM   #3
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Outside of a few stand-outs, I don't think coaches have nearly the amount of impact on results that most fans think they do.

It does happen, from time to time, but for every Patrick Roy in Colorado, there's, well, a Patrick Roy in Colorado.

Carlyle has a Stanley Cup as a coach, and a .572 win%, after a long and illustrious NHL playing career including Norris Trophies and team captaincies.

The only thing that really holds shame in his resume is that he was the last coach to ever lose a playoff series to the Oilers.

I know the media really turned on him in Toronto (shocking, I know), but he led the Leafs to a playoff spot for the first and only time in living memory, and finished with a .500 record with a bad team.

I'd say Carlyle is a middle-of-the-road NHL coach, which is just fine by me.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:47 AM   #4
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He's perfectly fine as a coach. It would be a wait and see, just like with Hartley.

He did better than most would have with Toronto, and won a cup with Anaheim.

It is hard to peg what impact this coach or that coach would have until games are actually played. If they go that route, it could either be a good thing, or not. Just would have to wait and see.
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:09 AM   #5
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I would not swap Hartley for Carlyle straight up so I would be displeased
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:17 AM   #7
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He wouldn't be my first choice. I guess if management thought he was the best fit , then they know best. The puzzling part for me would be that they thought Carlyle would be the best fit, but Boudreau was never a consideration. Still don't think he will be hired.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:25 AM   #8
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Not as head coach, but possibly as assistant/associate coach with a younger head coach?
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Was just going to say that I could see him as an assistant to a younger coach like Green or someone like that. I think because this is a young team, they need a coach who can grow with them. I wouldn't be the biggest fan of Carlyle as the head coach unless it was a one year thing to mentor a successor but even then I'd be iffy on it.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:38 AM   #10
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Carlyle always seemed to get results from his players.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:40 AM   #11
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He's perfectly fine as a coach. It would be a wait and see, just like with Hartley.

He did better than most would have with Toronto, and won a cup with Anaheim.

It is hard to peg what impact this coach or that coach would have until games are actually played. If they go that route, it could either be a good thing, or not. Just would have to wait and see.
Pretty much exactly this. Too many people focus on his time on Toronto, they complain about the possession numbers there; but they were a terrible team without the players to have a good possession game. People need to stop taking stats as gospel and realize that there is always a great deal of context that needs to be choked down with the numbers.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:42 AM   #12
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Carlyle gets results.
But he's tied to that absolute mess in Toronto.
So was Kessel and Reimer however and look where they are...

I'm torn personally... don't see much better "experienced" options out there unfortunately.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:50 AM   #13
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For me I am indifferent about Carlyle, but with that it actually makes me kind of not want him. I want the flames to hire a coach that I am excited about the prospects of and Carlyle isn't that guy. I would love for Treliving to go and grab some fresh blood, but I wouldn't be pissed if Carlyle was hired, just definitely not excited
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yesterday the Fan was suggesting that Carlyle was getting a second interview in Anaheim, which I thought was interesting given that the ducks core is likely similar to what it was when he was fired.

If the Flames hire him, then it will be the second time in both his life and mine that we have lived in the same city.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:13 AM   #15
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He's won a cup so it's not like they would be hiring say Don Hay (thanks Craig) that never had NHL success and failure was imminent. I would be disappointed mostly because Treliving fired a guy due to poor possession metrics and defensive zone play and Carlyle is essentially Hartley's equal in this aspect of his coaching. It would justly raise questions to who is really running the team. That said I hated the Hartley hire and he exceeded my low expectations so I would give Carlyle the benefit of the doubt until we see a season of the product.

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Carlyle had a pretty crappily built leafs roster in playoff position, and one may argue that he got the most out of the individual players there. At the end of the day, isn't that what we all hope a coach can bring ("greater than the sum of parts" cliche)?

His stock shot thru the roof as a cup winner with a strong 2-way team... but that comes with a massive asterick of having 2 of the greatest dmen to play in the league in the last 20 years.

He's an experienced guy, who's been thru a variety of scenarios. His reputation took a hit in his last job, but i am not so sure that's squarely on his shoulders, as the leafs team/leadership were absolute crap.

I'd be "meh, let's see" if this were the hire. To be honest, i think that will be my approach to more or less any coaching hire at this stage.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:21 AM   #17
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Hiring Carlyle would make it look like the Flames were treading water or running in place. Pointless move.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:33 AM   #18
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There is no surprise that Babcock coached a much much worse Leafs roster to much better possession numbers.

I wouldn't want Carlyle involved in this organization in any capacity.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:36 AM   #19
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To answer the topic's question:

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Old 06-01-2016, 08:44 AM   #20
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Not good at all.

I can see why they let Hartley go, but in my opinion Carlyle would be a huge step back. I don't want any part of him. He was brutal in Toronto.
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