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Old 05-29-2016, 10:48 PM   #141
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Rangers were in the cup finals and conference finals the past 2 years. The Lightning were in the cup finals just last year. The Capitals are the runaway President's Trophy winner as the top team this season. That sounds like one hell of a road to the finals to me.

Kings and Rangers both got ousted for free in 5 games. Is it worth arguing that the Sharks' 5 game series was harder? Why?

I don't think you can argue that Nashville is a better team than Washington. Why does the fact that the Caps "dropped the ball" make it any easier on the Pens? Both teams played a 6 game series and the Pens beat the better team.

I agree that Blues > Lightning, but it's close. Both series went to 7 games. Again, not sure why it's worth arguing that the series which had a blowout in game 7 was more taxing on the Sharks.

Both teams have played the same number of games. Neither team had it easy, but if you think it was "far tougher" for the Sharks then I think it just comes down to a Western Conference bias more so than logic and reason.
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Old 05-29-2016, 11:35 PM   #142
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Series previews
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Old 05-30-2016, 01:25 AM   #143
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Rangers were in the cup finals and conference finals the past 2 years. The Lightning were in the cup finals just last year. The Capitals are the runaway President's Trophy winner as the top team this season. That sounds like one hell of a road to the finals to me.

Kings and Rangers both got ousted for free in 5 games. Is it worth arguing that the Sharks' 5 game series was harder? Why?

I don't think you can argue that Nashville is a better team than Washington. Why does the fact that the Caps "dropped the ball" make it any easier on the Pens? Both teams played a 6 game series and the Pens beat the better team.

I agree that Blues > Lightning, but it's close. Both series went to 7 games. Again, not sure why it's worth arguing that the series which had a blowout in game 7 was more taxing on the Sharks.

Both teams have played the same number of games. Neither team had it easy, but if you think it was "far tougher" for the Sharks then I think it just comes down to a Western Conference bias more so than logic and reason.
In the grand scheme of things, theirs no way of arguing that a road to the final is tougher per say - too many intangibles, but the calibre of the teams the Sharks had to get through based on those teams history of actually showing they can win and not be pretenders is a good measure of a teams true ability.

The Kings have two rings this decade. Sharks beat them. Hawks have 3 rings this decade, Sharks beat the team that beat them. What have the Lightning and Rangers and Capitals done? Squat. They can keep beating each other all they want until they reach the finals and once again show why the
West plays the winning style these days. Like it or not, the proofs in the pudding - no bias here. You are only the best if you take out the best, and the Sharks have. Thats why i think they'll win. But anything is possible when you have Sidney Crosby on your team.
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Old 05-30-2016, 01:31 AM   #144
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I have a feeling Malkin is finally going to start playing like the star player he can be. Go Pens!
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:54 AM   #145
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In the grand scheme of things, theirs no way of arguing that a road to the final is tougher per say - too many intangibles, but the calibre of the teams the Sharks had to get through based on those teams history of actually showing they can win and not be pretenders is a good measure of a teams true ability.



The Kings have two rings this decade. Sharks beat them. Hawks have 3 rings this decade, Sharks beat the team that beat them. What have the Lightning and Rangers and Capitals done? Squat. They can keep beating each other all they want until they reach the finals and once again show why the

West plays the winning style these days. Like it or not, the proofs in the pudding - no bias here. You are only the best if you take out the best, and the Sharks have. Thats why i think they'll win. But anything is possible when you have Sidney Crosby on your team.

Oh my god. SO much bias.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:06 AM   #146
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I'm in the same boat.

Players like Crosby are rare and I take pleasure marvelling at the skill and competitive drive of these types of players.
I think it's not so much hating Crosby, as a combination of factors:
- the over-the top hype surrounding his draft year and the following year or two.
- a bit of envy and resentment that an undeserving team that tanked to get one generational talent (Lemieux) then wins a lottery to get another. Pretty similar to the current situation with the Oilers and McJesus.
- no matter how good a person/player someone is, there will always be a few detractors who can find some obscure reason to push him off the pedestal.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:30 AM   #147
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As always, hoping for a game 7 OT final. Next goal wins. Hasn't happened since 1954.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:40 AM   #148
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IMO the Sharks have been the best team in the playoffs to date. They have dominated in their opponents in their wins and I feel they should win this series in 5 games but as dominant as they have looked they seem to have one or two no-shows each series so I expect them to win in 6 or 7 games.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:59 AM   #149
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Really rooting for the Sharks here. I can't wait to see Thornton and Marleau and Burns hoist the Cup.

Pittsburgh's defense is very iffy and the Sharks have a non-stop attack. I can see San Jose taking this in 5 or 6.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:49 AM   #150
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Love seeing the support the Sharks are getting in San Jose. For a sunbelt team with no history to always be so well supported, gotta give them props.

Lets Go Sharks. I'm on board the bandwagon.
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Old 05-30-2016, 01:45 PM   #153
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Really hard to understand the idea that the Sharks have outplayed their opponents more than Pitt did. Pitt outshot Tampa 2-1 through that whole series. They might have needed 7 games, but I thought it was the most unbalanced 7 game series I've ever seen outside of Bos/Van in 2011.

Sharks are in tough. I don't think either team has much of an edge.
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Really hard to understand the idea that the Sharks have outplayed their opponents more than Pitt did. Pitt outshot Tampa 2-1 through that whole series. They might have needed 7 games, but I thought it was the most unbalanced 7 game series I've ever seen outside of Bos/Van in 2011.

Sharks are in tough. I don't think either team has much of an edge.
Yeah that mighty Lightning team that had the monumental task of having to defeat the Red Wings and Islanders to get to the 3rd round.
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^^^ I think it's only a matter of time before Thornton's beard achieves sentience and crawls away.
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^^^ I think it's only a matter of time before Thornton's beard achieves sentience and crawls away.
I think Thornton is planning to join the cast of Vikings as an extra once the SCF is over.
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As always, hoping for a game 7 OT final. Next goal wins. Hasn't happened since 1954.
Game 7 10OT final, more like.

I love those high stake games where it goes on so long that you begin to wonder if it's ever going to end, yet you just can't take your attention away.
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Man Thornton's beard is gnarly. It's so thick, it's growing out sideways.
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