04-15-2016, 04:20 PM
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#222
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm not getting into this again, but you all will. Everyone is all talk until the only way to get the jersey the Flames win the cup in is with ads on it.
People love to be outraged about change before it happens but then they realize it really makes no difference and they're not buying their favorite teams jersey due to it's content but what it means to them. That's why I am convinced, 100% that every single person on here that "SWEARS" they'll never buy a jersey with an ad on it is just lying to themselves.
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Are you so simple minded that you can't accept that people have different principles, values, opinions than you? What a strange way to live one's life. You will buy whatever schlock the NHL/Flames will pump out, therefore you think 100% of everyone everywhere will do the same? Interesting insight into the world of polak.
I will never buy a jersey with ads on it. Period. Just like I will never buy one of those abominable thirds. I have 4 decades worth of jerseys to pick from. Why would I wear something that I find repulsive?
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04-15-2016, 04:35 PM
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#223
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by sun
Are you so simple minded that you can't accept that people have different principles, values, opinions than you? What a strange way to live one's life. You will buy whatever schlock the NHL/Flames will pump out, therefore you think 100% of everyone everywhere will do the same? Interesting insight into the world of polak.
I will never buy a jersey with ads on it. Period. Just like I will never buy one of those abominable thirds. I have 4 decades worth of jerseys to pick from. Why would I wear something that I find repulsive?
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How do you know you'll find them repulsive?
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04-15-2016, 04:45 PM
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#224
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Originally Posted by heep223
How do you know you'll find them repulsive?
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That's how I feel about advertisements.
I choose to show my allegiance to the Calgary Flames, so I put their logo on my chest. Adidas/Reebok/CCM makes that jersey, so their logo is a (usually discreet) necessary evil. Scotiabank, Bell, TD, Rogers, Tim Hortons, Rona, etc is where I would draw the line.
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04-15-2016, 04:48 PM
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#225
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by polak
I'm not getting into this again, but you all will. Everyone is all talk until the only way to get the jersey the Flames win the cup in is with ads on it.
People love to be outraged about change before it happens but then they realize it really makes no difference and they're not buying their favorite teams jersey due to it's content but what it means to them. That's why I am convinced, 100% that every single person on here that "SWEARS" they'll never buy a jersey with an ad on it is just lying to themselves.
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One of the most arrogant posters in Calgarypuck history being at his most arrogant. Predictable.
However, despite both your and Street Pharmacist's efforts to speak on behalf of everyone else, I stand by my original comments. I will not buy a jersey with paid advertising on it. Ever.
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04-15-2016, 04:54 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Which is fine, but I would assume a fairly low percentage, about ~5% (and I think that's very gracious) would actually boycott buying a NHL jersey because there's a sponsor's logo on it; despite it looking exactly the same as the one on the ice.
But as with the CFL, just because they have the ads on the on field jerseys, doesn't mean they will have them on the consumer versions. That's still pending. Personally, I think it would be better if they kept it off, but I wouldn't be upset if they were on.
Soccer is doing just fine with selling their jerseys despite the ads being more prevalent on the jersey than the team crest itself.
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04-15-2016, 06:12 PM
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#227
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In the Sin Bin
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lol here we go again.
yes yes, "stick it to the man", "Im not a billboard" whatever.
If the NHL puts ads on all replica jerseys and the Flames win the cup or draft a generational talent you'll change your tune eventually because eventually just like with every change ever made to trivial nonsense, people will get over it, even forget about it and continue doing what they did before.
And this is nothing like skipping out on a jersey cause you dont like the style by the way. This is never buying a new hockey jersey ever again. Ever. Good luck.
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04-15-2016, 06:52 PM
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#228
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Self-Suspension
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^wrong, BS argument. You can't just tell people their perspective is untrue. Screw wearing any jersey with ads ever. Nothing will change that, a multiple cup winning dynasty I don't care. I'd wager any amount of money that I will never change, ever, 0% chance you are right.
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Originally Posted by heep223
How do you know you'll find them repulsive?
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Because paying for a product that makes the owner of the product look worse while generating the corporation income is repulsive. 0% chance I'd ever wear a jersey with ads even if it was free, not going to give Adidas free advertising when the intent was to support the Flames.
How would you feel if every pair of Adidas shoes you bought came with a burger King logo? They aren't degrading me to get free advertising, screw that. Felt the same way my entire life.
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04-15-2016, 06:58 PM
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#229
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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I'm not even saying I won't buy one. I just think it's petty to pimp out every little bit. Grow the in business in other areas. Throwing ads on a jersey is pure lazy.
I don't care if soccer does it. Should the flames remove seats in the lower bowl and stick some cars in the corners if it earns more revenue than paying fans? Because hey! Bottom line by any means necessary!!
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04-15-2016, 07:45 PM
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#230
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I can't speak for anyone else but there are soccer jerseys that I refuse to buy because I don't like the sponsor. And I don't mean in principle because I don't care that much. I mean I don't wanna walk around with a giant Chevrolet logo on my chest type scenario.
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04-15-2016, 09:05 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 110
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
I remember there was an uproar years ago here on CP about the current home jersey having the Alberta patch on, and a number of people swear that they would never buy another Flames jersey again. I wonder how many of those promises hold true today?
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I'll put my hand up. I don't have one because I don't like how the Alberta flag stands out (a maple leaf and the crest I might have been okay with.) I'm content wearing my old style Regehr, Kipper, Yelle, Gio Dynamo Moscow jerseys or wearing a team Canada jersey until the new design where I hope the patches are gone. if they were the shoulder patches from the 3rd jersey I'd be content.
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04-15-2016, 10:21 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
yes yes, "stick it to the man", "Im not a billboard" whatever. ...
And this is nothing like skipping out on a jersey cause you dont like the style by the way. This is never buying a new hockey jersey ever again. Ever. Good luck.
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Are you actually this obtuse in real life or is it just internet Polak?
I'm not suggesting I'm sticking it to anyone, or have a problem being a billboard.
I'm currently wearing a t-shirt with a massive arcteryx logo, and a hoodie with a bigger black diamond logo. I have no problem being a walking billboard, nor do I have a problem supporting companies who's product I like.
GMC? Yup, like their trucks. Have no issue with the badge on the back. Stampede GMC? No, not such a huge fan, so I removed the dealership crest.
I have no issue with wearing a jersey with a small reebok logo (since they make the jersey), a small NHL crest (since the Flames play in the NHL), and a big flaming C. But I despise Tim Hortons. So let's say for this example, we go full soccer, and there's a massive Tim Hortons logo on it, and at the bottom a very tiny flaming C.
I have no desire to be a walking billboard for a company I despise to barely show support for the hockey team I love.
And yes, it's exactly like skipping out on a jersey because I don't like the style. Good luck? Good luck on what? Not buying material good that is by no means necessary to my day to day life, or enjoyment of watching my team? Good luck not spending $130 on something I don't like when I have every other iteration that I do like? I'm not entirely sure what luck has to do with it, and I'm not entirely sure how you can stake such a claim on what others will do.
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04-15-2016, 11:21 PM
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#233
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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I would never buy a jersey with ads on it. I've never bought a Flames jersey I've thought was ugly why would I start now?
Please don't speak for people you know nothing about.
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04-15-2016, 11:45 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I love soccer. I have only ever bought jerseys of national teams. Why? no ads. I would never buy a jersey with ads even though I could have easily done so with one of the EPL teams I support.
If the NHL goes that route, that's great for them. They simply won't get another dime from me buying their merchandise.
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04-16-2016, 12:22 AM
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#235
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One of the Nine
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Premier league jerseys are horrible. Tiny little breast logo, and a giant VODAFONE across the belly? I can tell you that that wouldn't sell in Canada. At least, not until a full generation of new fans had grown up with that as their reality.
NFL jerseys are different. The helmet is where their identifying colours are, so even if they allowed sponsor logos on jerseys, it wouldn't be as repugnant.
This is nothing like ads on the boards (remember clean, white boards?), and nothing like holographic PIZZA 73 hovering above the fans in the first row. Turning the NHL jersey into anything resembling a European any-sport jersey would probably cost teams more money in lost sales than they got from the sponsorship money.
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04-16-2016, 12:36 AM
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#236
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
lol here we go again.
yes yes, "stick it to the man", "Im not a billboard" whatever.
If the NHL puts ads on all replica jerseys and the Flames win the cup or draft a generational talent you'll change your tune eventually because eventually just like with every change ever made to trivial nonsense, people will get over it, even forget about it and continue doing what they did before.
And this is nothing like skipping out on a jersey cause you dont like the style by the way. This is never buying a new hockey jersey ever again. Ever. Good luck.
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I don't usually read your posts, are they all this dumb?
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04-16-2016, 02:30 AM
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#237
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In the Sin Bin
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lol look how defensive some of you get about this issue. Im simply calling bs. I think that most of you will give in. Stop taking it so personally.
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04-16-2016, 09:54 AM
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#238
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East London
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Originally Posted by kunkstyle
People have directed their dollars away from companies for much pettier reasons.
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While I won't question your resolution, sports teams are not your average company and a large amount of their customers are captive. It takes more for someone to boycott their beloved Flames/Raptors/Seahawks than TELUS/Walmart/Wendy's. Additionally, success will bring new fans and time will change the tide of opinion (i.e. father may not buy a jersey with a sponsor but his daughter may consider it normal).
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04-16-2016, 10:01 AM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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It seems to me that soccer club jerseys are not actually a very common sight in Europe, at least relative to the popularity of the sport. In comparison national team jerseys are quite popular.
National team jerseys generally don't have ads in them.
So yeah, a simple eyeball test seems to suggest that people are more likely to buy jerseys without ads.
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04-16-2016, 10:31 AM
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#240
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Addick
It takes more for someone to boycott their beloved Flames/Raptors/Seahawks than TELUS/Walmart/Wendy's.
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Granted, but I also never said boycotting the team. If it goes that route I'll still buy hats, hoodies, whatever.
Just not the jersey.
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