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Old 04-06-2016, 08:39 PM   #81
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No, no, NO.

Iginla's my favorite player ever and I re-acquire him in virtual hockey all the time, but it is time to move on. Honestly, I don't even think he would be interested.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:41 PM   #82
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My attitude is: 'No' but at the same time in the playoffs that crazy veteran presence sometimes works well. Like Mark Recchi.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:41 PM   #83
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The real question is would iginla want to come back?
He might come back under similar circumstances when we signed Regher for a day so he could retire a Flame. Other than that I don't see it ever happening.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:52 PM   #84
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He is not even a shadow of the player he was and is slow as hell. No.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:18 PM   #85
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That ship has sailed, for the love of all that is good, let it go.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:18 PM   #86
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I've watched him all season and would definitely want him on the flames. Still puts up points and scores goals. Those thinking he's too slow don't realize he doesn't have to be the fastest guy on the ice anymore. He no longer needs to be the guy carrying the puck up the ice. He would easily put up 30+ goals as the late guy moving into the high slot getting a feed from Johnny. That's how wideman had such great offensive production last year... And Iggy is way, way better at scoring from the high slot than wideman is.

Contrary to some posters above... He still wins the majority of board battles. He still plays with grit and sticks up for his teammates. And, most importantly, he has a great shot that he uses a lot. How many times do we all criticize the top line for one too many passes? Iggy is a guy that can finish those plays. Plus one of the biggest improvements needed next year is a better powerplay... Iggy does that everywhere he plays.

He will not be relied upon to be the top player on the team. He will not disrupt the dressing room. He is the ultimate pro. He can play the wing on any line while contributing to the team. This isn't a nostalgia thing... It's the fact that the flames need a goal-scoring right winger with some grit who improves the powerplay. Iggy does all those things.

I have no delusion that he is the same player from 10 years ago... He's not. But that does not mean he isn't a good player still who can help this team.

The Iggy for wideman trade would be perfect but I think a trade like that would have to happen early in the season or in the summer. Mainly because the Avs would look to get prospects/picks for iginla rather than another rental player if they are out of the playoffs. An Iggy-Wideman swap makes sense for both teams. Would definitely consider it.


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Old 04-06-2016, 09:26 PM   #87
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Nope... not even if played for free.

Iggy is done. Y'all need to stop dwelling in the past.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:27 PM   #88
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Sure why not? If he can still play. I wouldn't do it on sentimental value but if hes the best option for the position and at the best cost of course you do it.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:32 PM   #89
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I would OK with it, let him play 3rd line minutes and be a PP specialist, guy can still play a bit
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:21 PM   #90
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Nope... not even if played for free.

Iggy is done. Y'all need to stop dwelling in the past.
He has 21 goals and 45 points. That's more than anyone on the entire Maple Leafs roster. There are about 6 other teams where he'd be top 3 in team scoring.

David Jones had 15 points this year and had value. Iginla has value and is not done.

I feel like a lot of people on CP are saying it's crazy without actually evaluating the practicality of the situation. I doubt the Flames will be safely in a playoff spot by the trade deadline next year. I also doubt that Colorado will be completely out by the trade deadline. But if the right situation arises, Iginla could be a reasonable option.
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He has 21 goals and 45 points. That's more than anyone on the entire Maple Leafs roster. There are about 6 other teams where he'd be top 3 in team scoring.

David Jones had 15 points this year and had value. Iginla has value and is not done.

I feel like a lot of people on CP are saying it's crazy without actually evaluating the practicality of the situation. I doubt the Flames will be safely in a playoff spot by the trade deadline next year. I also doubt that Colorado will be completely out by the trade deadline. But if the right situation arises, Iginla could be a reasonable option.
At this point all he has is his world class shot. We can do better.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:27 PM   #92
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I would give up a second round pick at the deadline next year for Iggy as a playoff rental (hopefully he retires with the Flames as well after lifting the cup.)
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At this point all he has is his world class shot. We can do better.
Yes, we could be able to do a lot better. I'm sure there will be a lot of better forwards available during the deadline next year.

But the Flames will still be a young team at next year's deadline. Would you really want to give up a lot of assets for top-end talent? Or would you just rather just spend a 4th on Iginla to get a bit of a scoring and moral boost?

A second might be a little rich, but I would be willing to give up something for him. A 4th for Iginla would be more reasonable than a 1st+prospect for Steen (will be pending UFA, but probably no available).
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:44 PM   #94
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If all goes well tomorrow it's fair to suspect that our biggest need for a playoff run at deadline time would be a scoring RW (and probablybla depth D).

Possible RW expiring contract rentals (assuming they don't sign extensions):

Iginla
Burrows
Stafford
Gionta
Oshie
Hemsky
Dupuis
Williams
Clutterbuck

other forwards:
Marleau
Vanek
Sharp
Steen
Benn
Marchand
Michalek
Kunitz
Thornton
Umberger
Laich
Fisher
Vermette
Berglund
Ribeiro
Desharnais
Hanzal


Iggy is the oldest of any. IMO the pricetag for anyone better than Iginla will be too high, unless we are in a bizarro universe where somehow Dallas, San Jose, Boston and Washington were all clear sellers at the deadline, but even then the prices wouldn't exactly decline.

I think Iginla may be the best fit in terms of possible value compared to price tag.
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Even if the Flames do find a better option for a scoring RW next season...

... they STILL need a player like Iginla.

The Flames have a total of ONE top-6 winger right now. Frolik can play top-6 in a pinch, but I think most would agree he's better suited to a traditional 3rd line role.

None of the winger prospects are even clearly ready for the NHL yet, nevermind top-6 duty.

It's all about acquisition price. But we definitely have room for the player.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:09 AM   #96
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No, no, NO.

Iginla's my favorite player ever and I re-acquire him in virtual hockey all the time, but it is time to move on. Honestly, I don't even think he would be interested.
Totally agree. The era is over. I'd love to have him here but if things go sour or something goes wrong, his legacy will be tarnished.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:22 AM   #97
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Bouma and Monahan say hi.
Not sure if Bouma and Monahan is what you're looking for in forward leadership. The same guys that partied til 8 in the morning a couple hours before practice. I would say Colborne is a more responsible leader.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:38 AM   #98
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No. Next season is too soon to be spending assets on a rental.

I would have no problem if the Flames signed free agent Iginla to a one year contract however.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:43 AM   #99
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I would think the biggest thing he would have to offer the Flames would be an added push for the rest of the guys to 'win it for Iginla'. I don't think that he has the legs any longer to really contribute in a meaningful way - especially with the way the Flames play (speed + having the forwards race back fairly deep - this is why Hartley demands fitness to play his system after all).

Now, how much is that worth? Well, fairly close to zero IMO. If the Flames have an expiring contract of a similar amount you trade at the deadline for him - and if said player of course was not a high contributur - then sure. That is about all really. I would in all seriousness rather keep Wideman for playoff depth, as you can't have enough defencemen for a playoff run.

Now, as a Flames fan AND an Iginla fan, I sure hope he doesn't return. His play has deteriorated. I can see him quickly becoming a huge whipping boy. I like Iginla. I like the history on the team - his 'legacy'. I think there would be a big chance of him completely tarnishing (or at the very least, blemishing it) if he returns and especially if the Flames don't win the cup. People (I am SURE there will be some at least) will point the finger at Iginla saying "If only we had someone better at that spot" or "he caused some instability in the locker room", etc. This only works if the Flames win the cup.

I think he just signs a retirement deal when his current contract is up. Iginla just can't be that competitor he once was - and that is no slight to him. Age just caught up with him, and I find it a bit surprising he is able to score still given how much of a toll the first 10 years of his career probably took on him.
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Obviously Iginla doesn't carry the same risks as the original STAMP! target.

I do think it's unlikely though.
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