The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[chemgear]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...tack-1.3493813

A Manitoba woman is recovering from her injuries after five bullmastiff dogs attacked her and killed her shih tzu on Monday.

She saw two unleashed bullmastiffs on a driveway on a lot without a fence.
She picked up Maze and tried to hide her. The two dogs bolted for her, she said.

Cook put out her arm to stop the dogs from getting at Maze and one of the bullmastiffs bit her arm, she said. She screamed and the owner came running outside with three other bullmastiffs behind him, she said. The five dogs surrounded her, jumped on her and knocked her down, she said.

"When I realized they weren't backing off and he was getting attacked, I thought, I'm going to die here because they're attacking him and there's five of them."

The owner of the bullmastiffs brought Maze to her in a box and said she was dead.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...tack-1.3493813

A Manitoba woman is recovering from her injuries after five bullmastiff dogs attacked her and killed her shih tzu on Monday.

She saw two unleashed bullmastiffs on a driveway on a lot without a fence.
She picked up Maze and tried to hide her. The two dogs bolted for her, she said.

Cook put out her arm to stop the dogs from getting at Maze and one of the bullmastiffs bit her arm, she said. She screamed and the owner came running outside with three other bullmastiffs behind him, she said. The five dogs surrounded her, jumped on her and knocked her down, she said.

"When I realized they weren't backing off and he was getting attacked, I thought, I'm going to die here because they're attacking him and there's five of them."

The owner of the bullmastiffs brought Maze to her in a box and said she was dead.

Hopefully the owner gets sued into oblivion. What kind of delta bravo ###### bag needs 5(!) bullmastiffs? What a friggin' joke.

[chemgear]

Update on the poor guy attacked on Christmas Day. Token "they're babies, friendly dogs" before they chase you into your own home and rip you up.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...-b-c-1.3486285

Robin Elgie, a B.C. man who was injured in a dog attack Christmas Day, is home after seven surgeries to repair his damaged arms.

Two bully-breed dogs attacked the 66-year-old in his Fort. St. John trailer after chasing his small dog Goldie inside, then turned on him and his girlfriend, also killing their cat. The dogs were shot by RCMP officers responding to the incident.

The injured man's work prospects may be limited. It will take at least two years before he recovers well enough to drive, and he will need a special knob on a steering wheel, as his left hand is permanently damaged, doctors told his daughter, Sheryl Elgie.

"They were the friendliest things ever. They were licking me so hard my glasses came off. These are not killer dogs,"

Paul Bosco is a Vancouver lawyer who specializes in injury cases. He said dog bites are one of the top 10 reasons his clients launch civil lawsuits.

Bosco said forcing dog owners to buy liability insurance before issuing dog licences is one step municipalities could take, as many dog attack victims are left with no way to get compensation.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Here's a crazy idea, make owners criminally responsible for their dogs actions.

Kill another dog, owner gets charged with animal cruelty resulting in death (or whatever).

Kills a child, murder.

Maims a person, assault with a deadly weapon.

Then make animal cruelty laws stiffer. If all these dbags in the thread over the last few pages were facing jail time, this would be a different story.

[polak]

Murder is a bit much. Manslaughter

[FlamesAddiction]

I know a girl who has a cane corso. The dog is a big sweet heart, but it is very powerful and has hurt people just when playing. In fact, it dislocated my finger when I was playing tug with it. Her dog is also dumb as a brick. I have seen it jump and hide from blowing leaves.

Sometimes these dogs just think they are playing and don't know their own strength and in those cases, I do fell bad for the dogs when stuff like this happens and they need to get destroyed.

I am not saying that the examples in this thread were a case of a dog not behaving violently... I wouldn't know. Just saying that I can see it happening. I agree that it's a bad choice of breed to own and that having more than one is really irresponsible.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I know a girl who has a cane corso. The dog is a big sweet heart, but it is very powerful and has hurt people just when playing. In fact, it dislocated my finger when I was playing tug with it. Her dog is also dumb as a brick. I have seen it jump and hide from blowing leaves.

I laughed, but it is kind of scary to think of a dog like that being so skittish.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...tack-1.3493813

A Manitoba woman is recovering from her injuries after five bullmastiff dogs attacked her and killed her shih tzu on Monday.

I didn't want to post this story as this happened to an immediate family member. What I find very telling here is that the owner of the dogs had absolutely no control once his dogs began to attack; in fact being bitten himself by his own dogs.

This is the biggest thing is that you have to have enough control that you can take something away from your dog without the dog showing any aggression towards yourself. The article below is a great training tool; teaching your dog not to be aggressive towards you regarding his food. I actually tried this last night with my own dog (first time trying it in a long time.) My dog showed no aggression at all, but did follow me and his bowl as I walked through the house; stopping to sit whenever I stopped. He was rewarded with some chicken added to his food when I returned his bowl.

When a dog shows aggression to protect his food, it can be a serious issue. Not only is there the danger of other dogs or humans in the house being bitten, but over time it can lead to the dog becoming possessive over everything.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ken0042

When a dog shows aggression to protect his food, it can be a serious issue. Not only is there the danger of other dogs or humans in the house being bitten, but over time it can lead to the dog becoming possessive over everything.

When my kids were babies they could crawl right up to my big dog and pull a bone right out of her mouth. She would just let go of the bone, get up and walk away.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by ken0042

When a dog shows aggression to protect his food, it can be a serious issue. Not only is there the danger of other dogs or humans in the house being bitten, but over time it can lead to the dog becoming possessive over everything.

Yeah, it is real important when having a dog to make sure it is not protective of its belongings. As kids growing up with all our dogs, after we got them from the pound or ARF(Animal Rescue Foundation) we would have it in obedience classes and each meal we fed them there would be a hand in the dish, playing with the food, removing some, putting more in.

There is so much work to put in to a dog to make sure you have a safe and obedient animal. The problem is the owner does not put the time, effort money and love into the animal that it should. As the owner, you should be the alpha of the pack(Your family) and not the animal.

[JonDuke]

Surprised this didn't show up here yet:

http://www.660news.com/2016/03/31/po...ty-dog-attack/

Calgary Police Chief Roger Chaffin has apologized to the family of a boy who was chased down and attacked by an off-duty police dog Wednesday evening.

The dog was with his handler in a fenced-off backyard in the southwest community of Aspen Hills, when the animal escaped into the street where three children were playing.

One of them, a 12-year-old boy, started to run away and the dog – a three-and-a-half year-old Belgian Malinois named Marco – chased the boy into his home and bit him, causing puncture wounds to his leg.

[RougeUnderoos]

An update on the police dog story in the HuffPo (I know, I know!) from yesterday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04...n_9611284.html

Long story short: kid recovering, no answers yet, parents considering legal action, want the dog put down

And this -- don't know if it's just shabby reporting or the police actually 'said' this, but...

"Police are waiting for the dog to calm down after the high-stress incident before launching an investigation."

What the hell is that supposed to mean? They going to interview the dog, get his side of the story?

Also...

Calgary police Chief Roger Chaffin said in a press conference that it's unlikely the young dog will be euthanized.

"This is a rare occurence," Chaffin said. "All of our handlers have families and these dogs co-exist with children."

That sounds just a little confusing. Would your average dog, if it chased a boy into his own home and sent him to the hospital with bite wounds, be euthanized? I would hope so.

One "rare occurrence" like this is probably enough.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

An update on the police dog story in the HuffPo (I know, I know!) from yesterday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04...n_9611284.html

Long story short: kid recovering, no answers yet, parents considering legal action, want the dog put down

And this -- don't know if it's just shabby reporting or the police actually 'said' this, but...

"Police are waiting for the dog to calm down after the high-stress incident before launching an investigation."

What the hell is that supposed to mean? They going to interview the dog, get his side of the story?

Also...

Calgary police Chief Roger Chaffin said in a press conference that it's unlikely the young dog will be euthanized.

"This is a rare occurence," Chaffin said. "All of our handlers have families and these dogs co-exist with children."

That sounds just a little confusing. Would your average dog, if it chased a boy into his own home and sent him to the hospital with bite wounds, be euthanized? I would hope so.

One "rare occurrence" like this is probably enough.

The Police are always above the law, whether human or animal. The dog is bred and raised to attack and has proven it is unstable. It needs to be destroyed.

[flamesfever]

i'm not trying to say it was the boy's fault for running, but I think parents should teach their kids to avoid running from strange dogs, as there is probably a natural tendency in many dogs to give chase, whether they are trained to do so or otherwise. I think it also helps to have a dog in the family where kids can develop trust in, and a natural love for dogs in general.

I can sympathize with the police, who have put many man hours of expensive training into this animal, to have to put it down for one mistake. Perhaps a little extra training may reduce the risk of this ever happening and the animal could go on and have a very successful career.

I believe the family should be adequately compensated for their physical and psychological trauma and grief, and if there is negligence, the handler should be reprimanded.

[ken0042]

Every dog is entitled to one bite.
http://dogbitelaw.com/one-bite-rule/one-bite-rule

I think it also matters where the dog bit. In this case the dog bit the kid on the leg.

I also agree the family should be compensated, and the dog should not be allowed to live nearby.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

i'm not trying to say it was the boy's fault for running, but I think parents should teach their kids to avoid running from strange dogs, as there is probably a natural tendency in many dogs to give chase, whether they are trained to do so or otherwise. I think it also helps to have a dog in the family where kids can develop trust in, and a natural love for dogs in general.

I can sympathize with the police, who have put many man hours of expensive training into this animal, to have to put it down for one mistake. Perhaps a little extra training may reduce the risk of this ever happening and the animal could go on and have a very successful career.

I believe the family should be adequately compensated for their physical and psychological trauma and grief, and if there is negligence, the handler should be reprimanded.

No.

It is utterly delusional to suggest children should stand not run to the supposed safety of their home when a large aggressive dog is running at them.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Every dog is entitled to one bite.
http://dogbitelaw.com/one-bite-rule/one-bite-rule

I think it also matters where the dog bit. In this case the dog bit the kid on the leg.

I also agree the family should be compensated, and the dog should not be allowed to live nearby.

There's more than "one bite" to this incident, IMO. If the kid came into the dog's yard and it nipped him, then fine.

This large, aggressive dog escaped from his trainer and yard, took off after a child, chased him into his own house, bit him on the leg and knocked him down and wouldn't let go while three adults were trying to get him off. That's pretty dangerous behaviour for a dog that is supposed to be well trained. Considering the dog's "job" is to listen to its handler and deal with humans in stressful situations, it's not a good sign.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

i'm not trying to say it was the boy's fault for running, but I think parents should teach their kids to avoid running from strange dogs, as there is probably a natural tendency in many dogs to give chase, whether they are trained to do so or otherwise. I think it also helps to have a dog in the family where kids can develop trust in, and a natural love for dogs in general.

I can sympathize with the police, who have put many man hours of expensive training into this animal, to have to put it down for one mistake. Perhaps a little extra training may reduce the risk of this ever happening and the animal could go on and have a very successful career.

I believe the family should be adequately compensated for their physical and psychological trauma and grief, and if there is negligence, the handler should be reprimanded.

I thought that as a society we were trying to get away from victim blaming.

Trying to tell or teach a kid not to run from a dog is easier said than done. It is a natural response to try to get away from an animal or situation which is threatening.

[TomLeeMC]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

No.

It is utterly delusional to suggest children should stand not run to the supposed safety of their home when a large aggressive dog is running at them.

But we should be doing that. We should be teaching our kids to be calm and assertive around dogs.

I see the exact same thing with my 3 year old daughter and our german sheppard puppy. She would run away because she was scared of the dog and the dog would chase her and try jumping on her. Once we told her to stand her ground and tell the dog NO the dog just played around her because it understood the boundaries.

The kid can't be blamed for running though, that'd be some scary ****. They will probably be compensated, but mistake do happen and the dog shouldn't be put down.

[Sliver]

Fata the dog. Put it down. Chasing a kid into a house and attacking him? Why the fata should we show it any leniency? It's a GD menace.

Whether the kid should have stood his ground or not is the opposite of relevant. This dog was mishandled by its owner. It's 100% on the owner and 0% on the kid.

What a horror show that must have been for the kid. Can you imagine the fear while getting chased and overtaken by ferocious animal trained to take down humans? This is an absolute outrage. I hope the whole CPS dog program is re-evaluated and we move forward without these mutts.