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Old 03-21-2016, 03:14 PM   #41
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Yeah no. Ive been on both forums for over a decade and FOI is more or less equal to HFs NHL forum. Business of hockey and History of hockey have higher level of discussion admittedly.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:19 PM   #42
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People thought it was somewhat fantasy to call Monahan and Gaudreau the next Teows/Kane, but they're sure playing and producing more and more like those two, and very early on in their careers.

These two will be able to carry the team soon. I mean they already do, but they'll be able to take over and control games more, like Iggy once did.

I know fans are uncomfortable in winning when it's too late like this and worried about losing out on a lottery pick but maybe we're underestimating the potentials of both of these guys if we feel we need a Puljujarvi or Laine to find success. Quality trumps quantity, something we should learn from the perpetual rebuilders up north. If that weren't the case, we wouldn't still be beating them regularly despite them having a number top 5 picked players on us. Sure, we need more top 6 quality forwards, probably 2 more legitimate ones, but those would be the supporting cast to Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett. A core only needs to be so big. Chicago is proving that as long as the team is built around Kane, Toews and Keith, it has the core it needs to succeed.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:22 PM   #43
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Yeah no. Ive been on both forums for over a decade and FOI is more or less equal to HFs NHL forum. Business of hockey and History of hockey have higher level of discussion admittedly.
HF vs. CP aside, anything that has Bo Horvat ahead of Sean Monahan is trash and/or trolling. Why bother posting it.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:23 PM   #44
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I don't dismiss everything from HF. If you wade through all the crap, there are some knowledgeable posters on there.

You take with a grain of salt some of the opinions because they're tinged with their favoured team's bias. It's no different than here. Really, the trade proposals on there are no more ludicrous than some of the proposals on here TBQH. It's kind of nice to read some other fans opinions sometimes. Plus, they bash the Oilers just as much as here (although they do perform crazy circle jerks for McDavid on there, but this has been going on since the kid was 15).
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:25 PM   #45
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What a thread, what a god damn thread.

21 year old Calgary player gets a star of the week putting up great numbers and this is what becomes of it.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:29 PM   #46
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Yeah no. Ive been on both forums for over a decade and FOI is more or less equal to HFs NHL forum. Business of hockey and History of hockey have higher level of discussion admittedly.
I find it concerning that you've been a member for 10+ years and haven't come to that realization. Even some of the more vocal Flames fans on HF are hard to stomach. They don't have a clue about their own team, but nobody else is knowledgeable enough to call them out on it.

Half of the threads on HF are made as an excuse to make fun of the Oilers. Then Montreal fans feel the need to make any thread about their own team and then play the victim card when everyone else yells at them.

Oh and HF is moderated beyond belief to keep it PG for the kids. Even the moderators are biased asshats.
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Oh and HF is moderated beyond belief to keep it PG for the kids. Even the moderators are biased asshats.
He said without a hint of irony while posting on a forum with a swear filter.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:35 PM   #48
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He said without a hint of irony while posting on a forum with a swear filter.
Ass is only a swear until you hit the age of 12. Which is why it would be filtered out on HF and not CP.

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Old 03-21-2016, 03:46 PM   #49
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People thought it was somewhat fantasy to call Monahan and Gaudreau the next Teows/Kane, but they're sure playing and producing more and more like those two, and very early on in their careers.

These two will be able to carry the team soon. I mean they already do, but they'll be able to take over and control games more, like Iggy once did.

I know fans are uncomfortable in winning when it's too late like this and worried about losing out on a lottery pick but maybe we're underestimating the potentials of both of these guys if we feel we need a Puljujarvi or Laine to find success. Quality trumps quantity, something we should learn from the perpetual rebuilders up north. If that weren't the case, we wouldn't still be beating them regularly despite them having a number top 5 picked players on us. Sure, we need more top 6 quality forwards, probably 2 more legitimate ones, but those would be the supporting cast to Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett. A core only needs to be so big. Chicago is proving that as long as the team is built around Kane, Toews and Keith, it has the core it needs to succeed.
I'm truly conflicted about it mate. I feel like this was our year to get the last top pick we needed before continuing on and becoming a playoff team over the next few years. On the other hand I love seeing the guys battle with heart and have some success. Monahan especially, I didn't think he would get to 30 goals again but it looks like he will, just brilliant.

Maybe karma will reward us and we will won the lottery?
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:49 PM   #50
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Was it Anaheim that signed Getzlaf and Perry to new deals at the same time? I would love to see a presser with Johnny and Mony side by side having just inked new contracts concurrently.
Toews and Kane have identical contracts, but Perry makes $8,625,000 and Getzlaf makes $8,250,000
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Old 03-21-2016, 04:02 PM   #51
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Can you score a goal without an assist?
Does the team with the most goals win the game?
Is there an award at the end of the season for the most goals?

Can you assist a goal without a goal being scored?
Does the team with the most assists win the game?
Is there an award at the end of the season for the most assists?
Can a goal that gets assisted be scored without the assist?

How many goals go unassisted? I'd have to think that number is below 10%.
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Monahan hitting his stride on and off the ice
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|CGY|home

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On Sunday evening, after a two-goal performance in Montreal, Calgary Flames head coach Bob Hartley made note of Sean Monahan's leadership skills off the ice.
Yes, the 21-year-old is producing at a clip of 0.77 points-per-game in his third NHL season. Yes, he is second in team scoring and could hit the 30-goal plateau for the second straight season. Yes, he has been red-hot as of late, netting seven points in his last four games.
All of those things are overwhelming positive.
But Hartley is extremely pleased with how his young charge is developing away from the rink and how much responsibility he wants to shoulder.
There has been growing pains but he has taken every experience -- good and bad -- and used them to make himself a better player and teammate.
"He's maturing," Hartley explained. "He's turning into a great leader for us. Quiet Sean Monahan, we all know about this ... on the bench right now, he's getting to be more talkative. He expects more of himself. He expects more of others around him.
"On the ice, he's a real good producer for us. He's a good leader. Off the ice, starting on the bench and the locker room, he's starting to be taking his spot and I like his leadership role right now."
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His teammates have taken notice as well.
"I think about 15, 20 games ago, Bob comes into our locker room and says everyone needs to step up a little more. I think as a leader on our team, he did exactly that," linemate Johnny Gaudreau recalled.
"As a younger guy, and him being a younger guy, it’s very contagious to watch him play so well and I get to play on his line and make plays with him and just try to keep producing for our team and keep jumping up another level for our play."
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When asked if anything had changed in his game in recent weeks, he pointed to feeling more comfortable in all areas of his game.
"I think [it's] my confidence. When I have the puck I’m trying to make plays and play the game the right way and lead by example. When you have that in your head that’s when good things happen
"I’m trying to step up here. The last 15, 20 games, it’s a tough stretch. I’m trying to lead by example, step up and take some ownership. I’ve been trying to get some people to follow."
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Given the duo has been paired together for the majority of the past two seasons, one can expect to see them continue to play off another another as time rolls along.
"It’s fun," grinned Gaudreau. "You try to get him the puck anywhere in the offensive zone and if he gets a point-blank shot, most of the time it’s going in. He’s got an unbelievable shot. It’s so fun playing with him.
"I’ve found myself more of a playmaker, so I think we have a perfect fit. I just try to get him the puck in an open area. When I do that, most of the time he’s finding the net. It’s exciting to play with him. He’s a great player; he’s a smart player. He’s got a knack for the net there."
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Monahan has taken an unfair beating by the haters on HF. Even though he is the leading goal scorer and nearly the highest point enter from his class he is passed by Ristolinen but ahead of Drouin and Lindholm.

He is 21 and is approaching 2 30 goal campaigns. This is a player that you sign for 8 years out of his elc. To me Johnny gets $7.5-$8M and Monahan is $6.5-$7M per full term
Both of those will most likely be great deals 5 or 6 years into their contracts. The cap will probably grow, and they will be legit 1st line players, while other superstars are being paid 9 or 10 million a year.
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Can a goal that gets assisted be scored without the assist?
Sometimes, yes. An assist is not supposed to be given out merely for touching the puck on a play that eventually leads to a goal – but we all know that this happens. In some buildings it happens routinely. The official scorers up in Edmonton used to be notorious for giving out two assists on every goal that they possibly could, whether or not the players who touched the puck made any contribution to the scoring play.
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He said without a hint of irony while posting on a forum with a swear filter.
Don't ####ing make fun of the swear filter.

EDIT: Wait did the filter change? I swear it used to change swears to 'fata'?
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