[News] Proposed expansion draft rules. Expansion decision expected before 2016 draft.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I disagree.

If the draft were held right now:

The Isles would have to leave one of Hamonic, Leddy, Boychuk or De Haaan exposed.

The Preds would have to leave one of Weber, Josi, Ekholm or Ellis exposed

The Ducks would have to leave one of Fowler, Lindholm, Vatanen or Depres exposed

The Bolts would have to leave one of Hedman, Stralman, Garrison or Sustr exposed.

In the case of the Islanders, they now probably start looking at a forward or young defenseman who will be auto-protected when they trade for Hamonic.

Admittedly don't know enough about who the Predators have coming up that would not be protected, but they are a team that I could see protecting those 4 defensemen along with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and Smith or someone. That would leave someone like Colin Wilson unprotected but I think that's less of an impact than one of their top 4.

Similarly, the Ducks could expose someone like Silfverberg if he has another down year but Theodore was also not listed so I'm not sure exactly who the Ducks would chose to protect.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

By next summer (After July 1st 2017) his EL contract will have rolled into the third year.

I guess it would depend on when they held the expansion draft, then? Pre-draft or post-draft.

Either way, even if we do have to protect him, we'll only be leaving junk for expansion teams to pick up. We drop off pretty hard after the top 5 or so.

[PepsiFree]

Would players with NMC/NTC be able to waive their clause if they felt they could find better opportunity on one of the new teams?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by polak

Not liking the idea of losing Jokipakka or Nakladal (Assuming we sign him) for nothing... that would suck. Plus all of the prospects that will be exposed, like Kylington....

Expansion drafts suck.

Not sure how a guy like Nakladal (or more importantly for the expansion teams - Panarin) would work. They would technically be 2nd year pros in North America, but they obviously were pros elsewhere before this.

[PeteMoss]

Saw Darren Haynes mention this on twitter, but the one goalie thing could help the Flames.

Teams like the Ducks and Penguins will have to move one of their goalies before the expansion draft or lose them for nothing.

[sureLoss]

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance
GMs were shown a few expansion scenarios. None of them allowed teams to protect two goalies. Tough choices for teams w/young goalie coming.

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance
One of those teams is Pittsburgh. If there's expansion coming, I wonder if they'd be forced to move Fleury to protect Murray.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Saw Darren Haynes mention this on twitter, but the one goalie thing could help the Flames.

Teams like the Ducks and Penguins will have to move one of their goalies before the expansion draft or lose them for nothing.

Was thinking about that, but then acquiring a goalie potentially exposes Gillies if you are only allowed to protect 1 goalie.

It really depends on how they define 3rd year pro for the expansion draft. Because Gillies technically had 1 year pro last year signing with the Flames to burn an ELC year. Then this year could be considered his 2nd year pro. Next year could be considered his 3rd year.

Wish they would release the comprehensive rules right now.

[Poe969]

All this may work in the Flames favor, if the pens can't protect Murray and the Isles can't protect Hamonic then they might as well trade them to us now!

[Strange Brew]

If the expansion draft were this summer, the Flames would be in a strong position. Very few players I'd be worried about losing. If losing Jokipakka is your biggest problem you are in good shape.

Now let's say the Flames acquired a guy like Hamonic in the off season. That would be interesting.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Was thinking about that, but then acquiring a goalie potentially exposes Gillies if you are only allowed to protect 1 goalie.

It really depends on how they define 3rd year pro for the expansion draft. Because Gillies technically had 1 year pro last year signing with the Flames to burn an ELC year. Then this year could be considered his 2nd year pro. Next year could be considered his 3rd year.

Wish they would release the comprehensive rules right now.

That is a good question. If its just contract years - it would be his 3rd year. But he's also played 2-3 games only over those two years so could go either way depending on the criteria.

[PeteMoss]

List of guys with NMC clauses at the end of the 2017 - http://www.generalfanager.com/clause...team=all&NMC=1

Ryan Clowe!

[ComixZone]

From Friedman

Anyone with fewer than three years of professional experience is exempt. You don’t have to worry about losing them.

To me that sounds like anyone who has played less than 3 full pro seasons is exempt.

The choice is three defencemen and seven forwards OR eight skaters of any makeup.

Friedman's 30 thoughts.

[Ashasx]

alright time to trade for Murray

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

So

Brodie
Hamilton
Giordano

Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Poirier
Shinkaruk

Gillies

Don't think Poirier and Shinkaruk have done enough to be protected ahead of actual NHLers. I'd have Ferland ahead of them plus whatever top two line winger we acquire this summer through trade/UFA.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

From Friedman



To me that sounds like anyone who has played less than 3 full pro seasons is exempt. meaning Gillies would be exempt.

Which contradicts the report from the TSN guys who said only 1st and 2nd year pro players are exempt and 3rd year ELC players are eligible.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Which contradicts the report from the TSN guys who said only 1st and 2nd year pro players are exempt and 3rd year ELC players are eligible.

Made a mistake anyways in what I wrote, technically 2016/2017 is Gillies's 3rd year pro, no? I imagine we'll have to wait until June before getting any clarity - but this could have a real impact on the Flames plans - we wouldn't be able to go out and be aggressive trade-wise on guys like Hamonic, unless we were willing to go down to protecting only 8 skaters, rather than the 7 and 3.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Depending on when they do the expansion draft, Jankowski might get affected.

I mean, if his team does not make it to the final 4, then I would have assumed the Flames would sign him and burn off a year. Now with the expansion draft looming, it may be smarter to just get him signed for next year, and have him sign an ATO.

However... it may just also make him decide to wait until August and become a UFA.

Will be interesting to see how teams will manage this. I expect there to be a lot more trading leading up to the expansion draft.

[FakenHaken]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Was thinking about that, but then acquiring a goalie potentially exposes Gillies if you are only allowed to protect 1 goalie.

It really depends on how they define 3rd year pro for the expansion draft. Because Gillies technically had 1 year pro last year signing with the Flames to burn an ELC year. Then this year could be considered his 2nd year pro. Next year could be considered his 3rd year.

Wish they would release the comprehensive rules right now.

Just a whole bunch of issues out there for everyone though.

Fucale in Montreal presuming Price is protected.
Subban in Boston presuming Rask is protected.
Murray in Pittsburgh presuming Fleury is protected.
Hutchinson in Winnipeg presuming Hellenbuck is protected.
Andersen in Anaheim presuming Gibson is protected.

I'm sure the list continues for just about everyone in the NHL. I'm not sure Gillies is ranked as highly outside of Calgary which could be a good thing. Also, his injury might just be a blessing in disguise. Not a whole lot of body of work compared to the above goalies.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Other pertinent expansion draft detail: teams must expose enough players which total at least 25 percent of previous season's payroll

[Ashasx]

come on nhl