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				Proposed expansion draft rules. Expansion decision expected before 2016 draft.
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Since the other thread is getting mega thready 
 News UpdateDarren Dreger @DarrenDreger 
Expansion draft potential. Each team has option of protecting 3d, 7F and I goalie or 8 skaters +1 goalie.  Expansion determined before draft 
 
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 
GM's told expansion decision expected before June draft. If expand by 1 team, each team loses 1 player...if two teams, 2 players. 
 
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 
Should clarify: first- and second-year "pros" exempt from potential expansion draft, not necessarily NHL players. Pro includes AHL 
 
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 
Daly says most simple thing to know on expansion draft: teams can only lose one player max if it's expansion by one team; 2 player max if 2 
 
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 
Teams must have a certain amount of salary exposed, plus positional concerns. 1st & 2nd yr pros will be exempt; 3rd yr ELC players eligible. 
 
Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva 
GMs will know before the draft if expansion will happen in 17-18. If no vote, no new team will play before 18-19. #nhl 
 
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 
Other pertinent expansion draft detail: teams must expose enough players which total at least 25 percent of previous season's payroll 
     
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-16-2016, 09:52 AM
			
			
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			Just to clarify, that isn't happening THIS summer is it?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 09:53 AM
			
			
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			What constitutes a 1st or 2nd year pro?  Would Bennett be considered a first year pro or a 2nd year pro at the end of this year?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 09:54 AM
			
			
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				Just to clarify, that isn't happening THIS summer is it? 
			
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The decision to expand is coming this summer.
 
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			03-16-2016, 09:55 AM
			
			
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				The decision to expand is coming this summer. 
 
The earliest the expansion draft could happen is 2017 
			
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Too bad, this summer would be perfect. Bennett wouldn't have to be protected, he's only a "2nd" year pro, same with Poirier and Shinkaruk.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:01 AM
			
			
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			The scary part is how many guys that we may want to expose that have NMC's.  Sounds like they are suggesting that you have to use a protected spot for anyone with a NMC.  
 
I am not sure who has a no movement clause currently on our roster.  Anyone know this?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:04 AM
			
			
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				The scary part is how many guys that we may want to expose that have NMC's.  Sounds like they are suggesting that you have to use a protected spot for anyone with a NMC.  
 
I am not sure who has a no movement clause currently on our roster.  Anyone know this? 
			
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Believe just Wideman per General Fanager and his contract would be up by the time this happens.
 
Backstrom also has a NMC but his contract is up this year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:04 AM
			
			
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			Players with NMC: 
Wideman 
 
Players with some form of NTC: 
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The NHL's official position is that NMCs don't protect a player from being claimed in the expansion draft.  The NHLPA is expected to challenge that. 
 
edit: Well duh.  Wideman's contract expires in 2017 so it shouldn't be a concern for an expansion draft.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-16-2016, 10:05 AM
			
			
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			Stajan and Giordano have NTC clauses, not sure how that works.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:06 AM
			
			
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				Stajan and Giordano have NTC clauses, not sure how that works. 
			
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IMO, Stajan would be bought out before being put on a protected list ahead of a young asset.
 
Giordano will likely be on the list anyways.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:07 AM
			
			
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			So 
 
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			03-16-2016, 10:08 AM
			
			
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			 News UpdatePierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 
Bottom line on expansion draft as a few GMs said: each team has potential to lose either a No. 4 or No. 5 D, or a No. 6 or No. 7 F or a G 
 
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All of the potential scenarios showed today all had one goalie max protection in expansion draft 
     
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:08 AM
			
			
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			Seems like the 3 defense will be our weak spot. 
 
Brodie, Hamilton, Gio 
 
Luckily Andersson and Kylington will still be protected.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:09 AM
			
			
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			Kylington would not be protected if the expansion draft happens after next season, which it probably would.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:10 AM
			
			
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				 News UpdatePierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 
Bottom line on expansion draft as a few GMs said: each team has potential to lose either a No. 4 or No. 5 D, or a No. 6 or No. 7 F or a G 
     
			
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Phenomenal, we have none of those. Nothing to worry about.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-16-2016, 10:11 AM
			
			
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			I wonder if the one goalie max protection will work in our favor in shaking loose a goalie from some stubborn sellers this off season.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:11 AM
			
			
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				Kylington would not be protected if the expansion draft happens after next season, which it probably would. 
			
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Would be the summer going into the third year. Does the third year technically start as soon as the season is over or when preseason starts?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:13 AM
			
			
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				Would be the summer going into the third year. Does the third year technically start as soon as the season is over or when preseason starts? 
			
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Does his ELC slide? I wonder if that would affect his status. He could be a 3rd year pro but technically be on year 1 of his ELC.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-16-2016, 10:14 AM
			
			
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			Sounds like we'd lose Jokipakka potentially.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2016, 10:16 AM
			
			
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			Hmm seems it's not as radical as their language was implying. The expansion team will just have slim pickings of waiver wire type players basically. They were talking like this team would be good now. Nah. 
  
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