03-08-2016, 01:55 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Mike Hoffman on his way out of Ottawa
Per elliote freedman on 30 thoughts:
9. Are we looking at the final 15 games of Mike Hoffman’s tenure in Ottawa? Sure looks like it. The winger was benched Saturday in Toronto, then played 13:46 the next night against Dallas. I talked about it with one agent (not Hoffman’s), who points out the contract power pendulum will switch from the club, which did very well in his arbitration case last summer, to the player. He is one year from unrestricted free agency, and can go to arbitration once again. This time, his resume is deeper, as he’s become one of the best even-strength scorers in the league. Unless the Senators believe in him enough to offer a lengthy extension, and their usage certainly indicates doubt, you can’t let him walk for nothing.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...-model-better/
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03-08-2016, 01:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Flames were rumored to be scouting the Sens before the trade deadline were they not. Wonder if they may be interested.
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03-08-2016, 02:04 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Would love to add him to the Flames. 27 goals last year, and 25 already this year.
He has a cannon of a shot.
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03-08-2016, 02:06 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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My cough man!
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03-08-2016, 02:10 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Locke
My cough man!
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You should probably get that looked at
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03-08-2016, 02:13 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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since their owners cheap they would probably want cost controlled prospects. Shinkuruk+andersson+one of our seconds?
edit: we would probably have to send some cap back.
Last edited by flamesforcup; 03-08-2016 at 02:20 PM.
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03-08-2016, 02:22 PM
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Franchise Player
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I'd be reluctant to use Andersson in a trade at this point, but I'd trade Shinkaruk+ for Hoffman in a heartbeat.
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03-08-2016, 02:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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Flames should try to capitalize on a dumb coach.
Sens are an absolute mess.
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03-08-2016, 02:28 PM
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Franchise Player
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We'd just be getting negotiation rights? Can he play RW?
Looks like someone that would be nice to snag.
What do the sens need?
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03-08-2016, 02:38 PM
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First Line Centre
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I will offer Raymond 90% retained + Smid 90% retained for the rights to negotiate with Hoffman
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03-08-2016, 02:47 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by flamesforcup
edit: we would probably have to send some cap back.
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Not probably... Definitely. He'd be looking for what... 4 x 4.5M give or take?
So a picks & prospect package + Smid and Raymond (50% retained on Raymond) to even out the cap for next season (assuming they'd let us work out an extension prior to the deal being completed).
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03-08-2016, 02:47 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
I will offer Raymond 90% retained + Smid 90% retained for the rights to negotiate with Hoffman
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Can't retain more than 50%, and even if you could, why would Ottawa take that for a guy on pace for 35 goals?
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03-08-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
I will offer Raymond 90% retained + Smid 90% retained for the rights to negotiate with Hoffman
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There is a lot wrong with this.
First off... you can only retain 50% of someones salary. Secondly, why on earth would the senators do this ? Finally, i am not sure you can offer stuff for teams to negotiate with their pending RFAs.
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03-08-2016, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by codynw
Can't retain more than 50%, and even if you could, why would Ottawa take that for a guy on pace for 35 goals?
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Its just for his rights. If they're confident that they cant re-sign him why not? They get something for nothing.
Also the ridiculous 'retaining' thing seemed like a joke. Much like 'launching Raymond into the Sun.'
I mean, I'd like to do it but the logistics are quite inconceivable.
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03-08-2016, 02:51 PM
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First Line Centre
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OK I didn't know about the max 50% retained salary rule.
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03-08-2016, 02:55 PM
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#16
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bonded
We'd just be getting negotiation rights?
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No, he's RFA with arbitration rights. He will be eligible for UFA a year from now.
Maybe. I understand he was drafted as a centre and has played mostly LW.
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Looks like someone that would be nice to snag.
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Yes. Yes, he does.
Pretty much everything except a top-pairing D, I should think.
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03-08-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Pretty much everything except a top-pairing D, I should think.
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Right, they've got Dion now so they're sorted on that front.
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03-08-2016, 02:56 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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So he's RFA this summer and UFA next (barring a bigger extension)? And he's had seemingly difficult negotiations in the past and will do so again? Seems like a decent target. He's never going to re-sign as a UFA after next season if they take him to the wall on this upcoming RFA deal.
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03-08-2016, 02:56 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Ottawa is a horribly run team
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03-08-2016, 02:58 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Its just for his rights.
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He has a year of team control left. He's arbitration eligible thou.
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