[PGT] Flames break a 7 game losing streak. Beat the Pens 4-2

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Agreed.

He is also money in the shootout, 3 for 3 this year. This shouldn't be underestimated, as it directly leads to points in the standings. For under 1.275 Million, he is a great deal. So far he has 11 goals and 26 points, those are good numbers for a third liner in this league.

Of course he leaves you wanting more at times, but most third liners do.

If at the beginning of the season, you tell me Colborne gets 13-15 goals and 30-33 points, with fairly limited ice time, I'm probably pretty OK with that. I also think he, among the present Flames, can remain at a pretty decent home town contract.

[calgaryblood]

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about.

Glencross isn't out of the league because he couldn't still score and contribute a little offensively. Colborne will be out of the NHL within 1 year, I have zero doubt about that.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about.

Glencross isn't out of the league because he couldn't still score and contribute a little offensively. Colborne will be out of the NHL within 1 year, I have zero doubt about that.

Bold Prediction bud. Colborne is a bottom 6 player that has some ability. Many teams would.find him serviceable.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about.

Glencross isn't out of the league because he couldn't still score and contribute a little offensively. Colborne will be out of the NHL within 1 year, I have zero doubt about that.

Yeah, no. Colborne's 26.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about.

Glencross isn't out of the league because he couldn't still score and contribute a little offensively. Colborne will be out of the NHL within 1 year, I have zero doubt about that.

7th among F in time on ice....6th in PP time...not sure who you think would be a better option at those minutes, but truth is Colborne provides decent value no matter how you look at it when his price point is brought into the equation. In fact other than guys on ELC deals he is probably the best value on the team when wages are considered.

I think people see his size and want him to be physically dominating, but that's just not his game though he isn't soft by any stretch either.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I think people see his size and want him to be physically dominating, but that's just not his game though he isn't soft by any stretch either.

He needs to be trained to hit low. Really low. Either that, or with a massive shove into the boards like Regehr used to do.

The problem is that whenever Colborne lays the body, it's often a high shot because he's so damn tall. So while he isn't aiming up or jumping into the contact, it's still to the head because of the height difference. So he gets penalized a lot. But on the rare occasion when it does meet a shoulder, the other dude is sent flying.

He just needs to learn how to check properly. I don't think he's soft in the sense that he shies away from it, but he probably doesn't want to take any more dumb penalties. So if he just clicked the Skill Stick more when he played physical I think it would work great.

[Enoch Root]

Colborne is not the weak link in the forward group.

I agree with those that say he is a good bottom 6er. When we have a team full of better options - great. Until then, he's fine.

The biggest problem with him IMO, is that he is 6th in PP time among forwards. That's not his fault, it's a lack of options.

The team needs 2 more top 6 forwards, and when they have them, his PP time will drop. And hopefully then, people stop ragging on him.

One player who's PP time should increase substantially next year is Bennett. Whoever gets that 1st line RW spot will be another.

[hurtin_albertan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Ortio was really good, but I'm not sure that he should be let off the hook on the first goal. His job is to track the puck and he totally lost where it was off the missed shot. Bad luck, but if he knew it was coming back that way he hugs the post and it doesn't get behind him.

If you watch the replay Ortio gets tied up with and yanked out of the net by Hornquist quickly which is why he wasn't able to hug the post. That's when the puck got behind him and in hurrying to get back in position he kicks it in.


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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about.

Glencross isn't out of the league because he couldn't still score and contribute a little offensively. Colborne will be out of the NHL within 1 year, I have zero doubt about that.

Colborne's size alone keeps him in the league for another 2 years in my opinion. He is only 26 and looks like he could get 40pt upside. 6'5 200+lb players that can ply all 3 forward positions are not going to be outnofnthe league that soon

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by hurtin_albertan

If you watch the replay Ortio gets tied up with and yanked out of the net by Hornquist quickly which is why he wasn't able to hug the post. That's when the puck got behind him and in hurrying to get back in position he kicks it in.


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That first goal had everything to do with the lively boards at Consol Energy Center. It was a bad break. With more experience playing in every NHL building, it is the sort of bad break that Ortio would very quickly learn to avoid. In the end, it is silly to complain about or to criticise him for it because on the whole he played very well.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Most fans that rag on Colborne would tell you he's an NHLer. The reason fans give him flack is because he shows flashes of a really good hockey player, but he just isn't consistent. If he was always confident and on his game, he'd be a bonafide top-6 RWer right now.

Otherwise he's a serviceable 3rd liner who has had 0 power play success. But I'd blame our useless special teams before I'd pin that on Colborne, as he seems like a player who can easily have success in the blue paint.

If I'm Hartley, I tell Colborne to spend the entire off-season on skating and getting his speed up. He'd be very productive if he could generate in-game break-aways with some actual speed. He'd become a legitimate top-6 RWer.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Isn't Colborne in the top 5 or 6 in forwards for ice time? With a significant amount of pp time as well? His point totals are nothing to write home about..

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Yeah, no. Colborne's 26.

Where did that 26 come from? He's 26th for forward icetime?

Colborne is 7th in TOI/GP for forwards (includes Hudler). 5th for PP ice time.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Where did that 26 come from?

He was born in 1990 and it's currently 2016.

[Roof-Daddy]

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[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by getbak

He was born in 1990 and it's currently 2016.

Oh geez, I thought he was talking about ice time, not age.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That first goal had everything to do with the lively boards at Consol Energy Center. It was a bad break. With more experience playing in every NHL building, it is the sort of bad break that Ortio would very quickly learn to avoid. In the end, it is silly to complain about or to criticise him for it because on the whole he played very well.

Let's not step away from the current goaltending zeitgeist.

The reason that he "played well on the whole" is that the ref had a quick whistle on what would have been PIT's third.

According to sv%, if the ref allows that one, he actually played slightly below average, on the whole.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Love Stajan, have loads of respect for the guy and feel like he would be a good fit still with the right team but we can't have him on the books for 2 more years after this season

I wonder if it would be considered cap circumvention if we were to trade him to another team (for future considerations), and then they immediately trade him back to us with salary retention in exchange for an asset.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

I'm pretty sure Stajan will be staying in Calgary for the remainder of his contract. The Flames are a classy organization and lets face it, that's part of the reason he was signed to such a generous contract shortly after his tragic family incident. If Stajan want's to stay then he will and that's fine with me. He's one of few vets who aren't hurting the team on the ice and he provides steady leadership.

Also it will be funny if we end up having a piece from the Phaneuf trade longer than Toronto does.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Also it will be funny if we end up having a piece from the Phaneuf trade longer than Toronto does.

That bridge was crossed a month ago. Stajan is already the last man standing from that trade.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Oh geez, I thought he was talking about ice time, not age.

..Perhaps Colborne was born on and has spent those entire 26 years on an ice surface? Aka..."ice time"

*mind explosion*