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		|  02-19-2016, 07:38 PM | #81 |  
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			I get that our defence isn't playing well - but at some point, your goalie has got to bail you you out.
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			Pos goal
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:38 PM | #83 |  
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			Dammit.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:38 PM | #84 |  
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			Bad giveaway but COME ON hiller!!! FFS
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:39 PM | #85 |  
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Is there a shooter tutor where the goalie is on his knees?
		 
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:39 PM | #86 |  
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			It's hard to even watch Hiller.  Just let Ortio play and spare us the torture.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:39 PM | #87 |  
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			Everyone should know by now that going high on Hiller results in goals....I don't even get upset anymore because it's expected.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:39 PM | #88 |  
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			At this point, it's on Hartley for playing him as much as Hiller for sucking.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #89 |  
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			The reason Ortio isn't playing is because he's even worse than Hiller.
		 
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #90 |  
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No, that would defeat the purpose of Hiller having a ridiculously buttersoft five-hole.
		 
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #91 |  
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					Originally Posted by FFR  I get that our defence isn't playing well - but at some point, your goalie has got to bail you you out. |  
Yeah even average NHL goalies save way more high quality chances than they let in. Our goalies let every single one in. And then some softies on top.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #92 |  
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			Not even a terrible giveaway, that's just a goalie who is committed to Auston Matthews.   Thank you Knee-ller
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #93 |  
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			I dont even need to say hiller cant see shots from the blueline. Now its the circle. Cant say that was a great shot either, but that seems to make it harder for hiller some how
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #94 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mass_nerder  Is there a shooter tutor where the goalie is on his knees? |  
Maybe this one is more accurate?
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #95 |  
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			How can you keep a guy in net who is not invested in the team in any way? Just play Ortio from now on and see if he is able to take an NHL role. At least you can fully evaluate if Ortio is part of the future or not.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #96 |  
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			Jonas Hiller is no good
		 
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:40 PM | #97 |  
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			Hiller is so awful it's embarrassing.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:41 PM | #98 |  
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Yup. What else can they do.
 
Hrudey saying it too, and he doesn't usually say anything negative about anyone; Hiller has got to stay on his feet longer.
 
Jaffe commented last game too, there was a long sequence in Calgary zone where Hiller never left his knees.
 
Earlier this game he slid right out of the crease on his kness over playing a shot.
 
To summarize, I hate knees.
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:41 PM | #99 |  
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					Originally Posted by saillias  The reason Ortio isn't playing is because he's even worse than Hiller. |  
Yep. Both goalies stink.
		 
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		|  02-19-2016, 07:41 PM | #100 |  
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			Hiller is worse than my rec league goalie.
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