02-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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Prime example. No one would have faulted Andersen but he still made the save. Changes the game. That's the difference.
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02-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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#442
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Oh, so that's what a goalie stopping a puck in a tight situation looks like...
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02-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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#443
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their goalie makes a big save..
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02-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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#444
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Flames have allowed 4 or more goals 24 times this year. No one has done it more.
This is definitely not a top 5 defense.
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02-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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#445
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Does anybody in the league get robbed by great goaltending more than Sam Bennett?
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02-15-2016, 04:26 PM
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#446
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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Anaheim announcers with no excitement over there save on Bennett. Boring broadcast.
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02-15-2016, 04:27 PM
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#447
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Flames have allowed 4 or more goals 24 times this year. No one has done it more.
This is definitely not a top 5 defense.
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Players
Goalies
Coaches (team defense)
Where does the fault lie?
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02-15-2016, 04:27 PM
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#448
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Flames have allowed 4 or more goals 24 times this year. No one has done it more.
This is definitely not a top 5 defense.
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The coaching staff deserves some blame for this as team defense has been terrible throughout most of Hartley's tenure.
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02-15-2016, 04:28 PM
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#449
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Come on man. This team is horrible defensively. Horrible. Carey Price would get lit up playing on this team as they can kill a penalty or keep players out of the crease for easy rebounds.
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Actually, if there's one thing we can learn from the Habs situation, it's how much an elite tender can cover up an otherwise very average hockey clubs mistakes.
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02-15-2016, 04:28 PM
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#450
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You really get no 3rd period comeback feeling from these Flames this year.
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02-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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#451
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Santorelli hat trick watch?
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02-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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#452
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Flames have allowed 4 or more goals 24 times this year. No one has done it more.
This is definitely not a top 5 defense.
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Let's put it another way...
The weakest defenses in the league aren't giving up that many 4 goal games. Do the Flames have the worst defensemen in the league? Or is there something else going on?
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02-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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#453
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Players
Goalies
Coaches (team defense)
Where does the fault lie?
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All of the above. Add Treliving too. Lots of hand sitting. I'm sure he has the phone duct taped to his head like everyone says he does, but there's definitely something he should be doing too.
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02-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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Haha, they had to show Bieksa's sucker punches to make that lil rivalry look not so one sided.
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02-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Actually, if there's one thing we can learn from the Habs situation, it's how much an elite tender can cover up an otherwise very average hockey clubs mistakes.
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You mean our situation for years with Kipper?
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02-15-2016, 04:30 PM
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#456
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That Ferland/Bieksa fight still pisses me off. Bieksa is such a turd.
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02-15-2016, 04:31 PM
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#457
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
You mean our situation for years with Kipper?
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Yup another prime example.
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02-15-2016, 04:32 PM
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#458
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
All of the above. Add Treliving too. Lots of hand sitting. I'm sure he has the phone duct taped to his head like everyone says he does, but there's definitely something he should be doing too.
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The last thing I want to see the GM do is make knee-jerk, or short-sighted trades.
Patience is everything when it comes to GMing
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02-15-2016, 04:32 PM
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#459
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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The Flames allowed 9 goals on the power play in the last three games. Is that on the players in front of the goalie's fault, or is it on the goalie for not being able to stop a puck.
Yes, the Flames have allowed 4+ 24 times, but how many of those time have the goalies allowed stoppable pucks to get by them. There were 4 of those today.
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02-15-2016, 04:33 PM
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#460
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Let's put it another way...
The weakest defenses in the league aren't giving up that many 4 goal games. Do the Flames have the worst defensemen in the league? Or is there something else going on?
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The Oilers Top 6 actually play better team defense than our bottom 4 and kill penalties better. Luckily they have no top pair.
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