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Old 10-28-2004, 01:16 PM   #1
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Molson takes it on the chin

Due to their ability to jump feet first into the Brazilian beer market, Molson takes a huge loss this quarter. I guess the only good thing about Maca Bavaria is the commercials.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:20 PM   #2
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They can go bankrupt for all I care. Their beer is horrible and slowly turning into american beer.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:21 PM   #3
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They can go bankrupt for all I care. Their beer is horrible and slowly turning into american beer.
I think their beer is the base for most American beers. Seriously though, its all a matter of opinion, but I'm with you, its swill.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:31 PM   #4
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They supposedly got as big as they could in Canada and to expand they had to look to other things, hence buying the Brazilian co. Did they ever end up merging with Coors?
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:34 PM   #5
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Yes, they agreed on a deal with Coors, but apparently this Brazilian thing is just killing them. Right from day one, as soon as they bought Maca Bavaria, the Brazilian market went into the tank for some reason.
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Big Rock>Molson.

er, does Molson bottle Big Rock?
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:41 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure Big Rock is totally independent. Not 100% sure though.
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er, does Molson bottle Big Rock?
No! Well, at least I don't think so.
Big Rock is Big Rock.

I agree, Big Rock is far ahead of Molson. But tell that to the people in Ontario. It's not a big brew out here. At the beer store, I had to show the guy the bottle off the wall after telling him 5 times I wanted grasshopper before he got it. He was like "Wow, didn't even know we had that, no one has ever ordered it before". Everyone in line behind me:
"What kind of beer is that?
"Is it new?"
"Probably some newfie beer that tastes like crap"
"Is it an import"

Well, I had to explain to all the leaf lovers what the beer was, where I was from, and why it was so different from most beers they like (which is basically Canadian).

Sure is great though walking up to a till, ordering beer, and have it come down the rollers out of the back room for you. Haven't seen that in looong time.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:50 PM   #9
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Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Oct 28 2004, 07:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Oct 28 2004, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SuperNilson@Oct 28 2004, 03:38 PM
er, does Molson bottle Big Rock?
No! Well, at least I don't think so.
Big Rock is Big Rock.

I agree, Big Rock is far ahead of Molson. But tell that to the people in Ontario. It's not a big brew out here. At the beer store, I had to show the guy the bottle off the wall after telling him 5 times I wanted grasshopper before he got it. He was like "Wow, didn't even know we had that, no one has ever ordered it before". Everyone in line behind me:
"What kind of beer is that?
"Is it new?"
"Probably some newfie beer that tastes like crap"
"Is it an import"

Well, I had to explain to all the leaf lovers what the beer was, where I was from, and why it was so different from most beers they like (which is basically Canadian).

Sure is great though walking up to a till, ordering beer, and have it come down the rollers out of the back room for you. Haven't seen that in looong time. [/b][/quote]
Traditional Ale is quite popular here in London, but its all word of mouth, there is virtually no marketing for it at all.
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank+Oct 28 2004, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Frank the Tank @ Oct 28 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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er, does Molson bottle Big Rock?

No! Well, at least I don't think so.
Big Rock is Big Rock.

I agree, Big Rock is far ahead of Molson. But tell that to the people in Ontario. It's not a big brew out here. At the beer store, I had to show the guy the bottle off the wall after telling him 5 times I wanted grasshopper before he got it. He was like "Wow, didn't even know we had that, no one has ever ordered it before". Everyone in line behind me:
"What kind of beer is that?
"Is it new?"
"Probably some newfie beer that tastes like crap"
"Is it an import"

Well, I had to explain to all the leaf lovers what the beer was, where I was from, and why it was so different from most beers they like (which is basically Canadian).

Sure is great though walking up to a till, ordering beer, and have it come down the rollers out of the back room for you. Haven't seen that in looong time.
Traditional Ale is quite popular here in London, but its all word of mouth, there is virtually no marketing for it at all. [/b][/quote]
I'm assuming London, Ontario not England?

If Big Rock has made it as far east as Ontario maybe I'll be get it in Quebec sometime soon. I've looked a few times, but I can't find it here.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:56 PM   #11
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I'm assuming London, Ontario not England?

If Big Rock has made it as far east as Ontario maybe I'll be get it in Quebec sometime soon. I've looked a few times, but I can't find it here.
Do the beer bottles in Quebec have primarily french labels?
If so, I don't see Big Rock spending money to adapt to Quebec only.
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Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Oct 28 2004, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Oct 28 2004, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FlamesFanInMTL@Oct 28 2004, 03:54 PM
I'm assuming London, Ontario not England?

If Big Rock has made it as far east as Ontario maybe I'll be get it in Quebec sometime soon. I've looked a few times, but I can't find it here.
Do the beer bottles in Quebec have primarily french labels?
If so, I don't see Big Rock spending money to adapt to Quebec only. [/b][/quote]
That's a good point, but as far as I can recall Sleemens has English labels on it(around the neck of the bottle). I'll have to look more losely next time I have one.
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I'm assuming London, Ontario not England?

If Big Rock has made it as far east as Ontario maybe I'll be get it in Quebec sometime soon.# I've looked a few times, but I can't find it here.

Do the beer bottles in Quebec have primarily french labels?
If so, I don't see Big Rock spending money to adapt to Quebec only.
That's a good point, but as far as I can recall Sleemens has English labels on it(around the neck of the bottle). I'll have to look more losely next time I have one. [/b][/quote]
On a related note, French beer is terrible. Stay away!
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:16 PM   #14
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Last time I did the big rock tour (Twice now), they said that they do sell a lot in Quebec, but almost primarily in kegs. So I'm sure if you go to the right pubs you'll be able to find it, but I wouldn't get my hopes up of finding bottles.
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Big Rock Traditional is #1 in my books. But they do make some bad beer, Warthog is terrible, tastes incredibly stale.
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I'm assuming London, Ontario not England?

If Big Rock has made it as far east as Ontario maybe I'll be get it in Quebec sometime soon.# I've looked a few times, but I can't find it here.

Do the beer bottles in Quebec have primarily french labels?
If so, I don't see Big Rock spending money to adapt to Quebec only.

That's a good point, but as far as I can recall Sleemens has English labels on it(around the neck of the bottle). I'll have to look more losely next time I have one.

On a related note, French beer is terrible. Stay away!
Not true. Beer from Unibroue is elixir of the gods. How can you not like beer named, The End of the World or Terrible. [/b][/quote]
But is this a French-French or Quebec-French beer?

I've never tasted a Quebec-French beer that I enjoyed -- HFK, Belle Guelle, Boreale, yeech...
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Big Rock Traditional is #1 in my books. But they do make some bad beer, Warthog is terrible, tastes incredibly stale.
Some bad beer??? Its all bad beer.

I don't get why everyone in Calgary likes Big Rock so much I haven't had one that I have liked.

But to each his own I guess.
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Big Rock Traditional is #1 in my books. But they do make some bad beer, Warthog is terrible, tastes incredibly stale.
Some bad beer??? Its all bad beer.

I don't get why everyone in Calgary likes Big Rock so much I haven't had one that I have liked.

But to each his own I guess. [/b][/quote]
So what is your favorite beer then? Just curious
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Also, note I prefer Big Rock over Canadian, not ALL beer. But Traditional Ale is up their among my favorites.
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Some bad beer??? Its all bad beer.

I don't get why everyone in Calgary likes Big Rock so much I haven't had one that I have liked.

But to each his own I guess.
Says the guy who wishes Pilsner was available on tap in more places...

I like Big Rock's Kold. Most here seem to like the darker beers though, so you'll all probably not like it much.
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