02-01-2016, 12:07 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
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Why are those outraged about John Scott, an AHL-caliber player, participating in the game not also outraged about Pekka Rinne's inclusion? He's played at the level of an AHL goalie this season - hell, Karri Ramo looks outstanding in comparison. Obviously Rinne's inclusion was a feel good, home team, story. The game could have been more competitive with a better goalie!!!
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02-01-2016, 12:20 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
I also think its kind of patronizing, mockery and kind of pitiful but if Scott/players/fans eat it up...
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I don't want to stomp on anyone's fun if they enjoy it.
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I'm sure you could be a bit more condescending if you REALLY tried.
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02-01-2016, 12:22 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
The Flames need to hire or trade for this guy.
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I was just thinking the same after I saw how frickin' big he is. And his slapshot speed is actually pretty good. With his size, he's actually not as slow as what some say he is. If the guy has played for San Jose and the Hawks, he must've been good enough to have been called up. I definitely like his size and I think he can definitely help the Flames in both the offensive zone in front of the net during power plays or defensively either banging players around or moving them out of the crease.
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02-01-2016, 12:23 PM
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#164
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Lifetime Suspension
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The crowd that is angry at Scott (or his presence at the game) need to direct their anger and frustration where it belongs: at the NHL.
They are 100% at fault for him being there as they gave the fans a blank check to vote him in.
With it having happened in voting a few years in a row now, they should have seen the troll job coming.
You can't tell the fans they can pick someone and then get angry when the do it.
I wasn't crazy about him being there either, but the NHL did open to door for it.
At the end of the day, the sentiment really made the story overwhelmingly a positive one. Anyone who didn't find it as such is really a grumpy person.
I will agree the NHL should amend it's policy to prevent fringe players from being selected as it's unlikely that magic can be rekindled... but this weekend really did turn out to be a great story. Full stop.
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02-01-2016, 12:29 PM
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#165
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Nope. This is a discussion site.
We will discuss things.
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Got it.
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02-01-2016, 12:32 PM
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#166
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Originally Posted by CSharp
I was just thinking the same after I saw how frickin' big he is. And his slapshot speed is actually pretty good. With his size, he's actually not as slow as what some say he is. If the guy has played for San Jose and the Hawks, he must've been good enough to have been called up. I definitely like his size and I think he can definitely help the Flames in both the offensive zone in front of the net during power plays or defensively either banging players around or moving them out of the crease.
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lol he isn't a good player...he has scored 11 points in his entire career
yeah he played for those teams when goons were relevant, there is a reason he is in the AHL. Help the flames powerplay! just stop
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02-01-2016, 12:34 PM
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#167
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by CSharp
I was just thinking the same after I saw how frickin' big he is. And his slapshot speed is actually pretty good. With his size, he's actually not as slow as what some say he is. If the guy has played for San Jose and the Hawks, he must've been good enough to have been called up. I definitely like his size and I think he can definitely help the Flames in both the offensive zone in front of the net during power plays or defensively either banging players around or moving them out of the crease.
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Thats probably the hope for Hunter Smith (and I imagine that was the hope for Bollig when we acquired him)
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02-01-2016, 12:35 PM
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#168
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In the Sin Bin
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The first star of the week thing is weird. Especially because the NHL didn't have to do it. That reads a lot like someone in the NHL office trying to ride the positive PR. Which, if nothing else, stands as evidence that the NHL does eventually realize a good thing, even if you have to slap them in the face with it repeatedly before the league takes notice.
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02-01-2016, 12:36 PM
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#169
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by CSharp
I was just thinking the same after I saw how frickin' big he is. And his slapshot speed is actually pretty good. With his size, he's actually not as slow as what some say he is. If the guy has played for San Jose and the Hawks, he must've been good enough to have been called up. I definitely like his size and I think he can definitely help the Flames in both the offensive zone in front of the net during power plays or defensively either banging players around or moving them out of the crease.
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hahahahah
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02-01-2016, 12:44 PM
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#171
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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I'd rather see Bret Hart or someone that is directly tied to the community first.
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02-01-2016, 12:45 PM
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#172
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
The crowd that is angry at Scott (or his presence at the game) need to direct their anger and frustration where it belongs: at the NHL...
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I can't speak for everyone, but I am personally not "angry" at Scott, nor at the fact that he played in the ASG. I am simply of the opinion that he should not have been there, understand and accept why he was included, and would have preferred had he not been. I maintain my hope that after this one-off that turned out really well in the end, the NHL does the right thing to adjust the ASG fan-voting system to prevent future ballot stuffing debacles.
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02-01-2016, 12:50 PM
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#173
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In the Sin Bin
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Guaranteed the league changes the voting format. As well they should. They should have in 2007 after Vote for Rory. Also, because this weekend can't be topped. Trying again would be forced and second rate. Just like there can be only one Red Mile and imitators like "Kopper Kilometre" and "Sens Mile" only cheapened the whole thing.
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02-01-2016, 12:51 PM
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#174
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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I think the NHL needs to understand that the 1st star should be the final kick in the can, or it just becomes patronizing (easily argued that the 1st star was one thing too far).
It's a lightning in a bottle thing, but who knows if they're smart enough to know when it's over and use the PR to re-focus on your product.
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02-01-2016, 12:58 PM
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#175
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
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One thing that isn't being discussed:
John Scott said the Pacific team would use the winnings to take a holiday together at the end of the season. Does this mean Johnny and Gio will become friends with Taylor Hall and Corey Perry.
This should be the real outrage.
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02-01-2016, 01:17 PM
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#178
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Unbelievable.
Give the movie to players who deserve it more. Like Taylor Hall.
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02-01-2016, 01:24 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Iggy City
Unbelievable.
Give the movie to players who deserve it more. Like Taylor Hall.
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Dumb & Dumber To came out a few years ago already.
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02-01-2016, 01:31 PM
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#180
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I think we should all chip in for tickets to send Jiri on opening night!
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