[News] Upd: Drouin decides to sit out until trade is completed. Lightning suspend him.

[sureLoss]

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
LeBrun: I've spoken to a few teams that have talked to Steve Yzerman about Jonathan Drouin's cost, and the price is high

[Gaskal]

Did some digging around and the asking price for Rychel would probably be one of Andersson/Kylington. Too high IMO

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
LeBrun: I've spoken to a few teams that have talked to Steve Yzerman about Jonathan Drouin's cost, and the price is high

No surprise there. The surprise will be if Yzerman actually manages to get something close to his asking price. Based on historically comparable deals, he will not.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Did some digging around and the asking price for Rychel would probably be one of Andersson/Kylington. Too high IMO

If Trelving can swing anything without moving one of the wonderful Swedes, he should do it. If one of them has to go, I'd pass.

[Tinordi]

On the basic face of it, trading a 2nd rounder for a 1st rounder seems like a pretty good deal.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If Trelving can swing anything without moving one of the wonderful Swedes, he should do it. If one of them has to go, I'd pass.

Are both Andersson and Kylington higher on the Flames prospect list than Hickey, in your opinion? I think it works to move one of the three—the difficult part s choosing the right one.

[The Fonz]

You don't trade an offensively gifted, pit-bull Center, for an offensively gifted, soft Left Wing.

That won't even be discussed.

[polak]

Kylington and Andersson are very exciting prospects. It would really suck to lose them.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

There's only going to be room for one of Kylington, Hickey or Andersson. The prudent move would be to package one of them for a need elsewhere when the time is right.

I don't get this comment.

I agree that it is probable that only one or two of them make it, but there is definitely room for all three, should they get that far.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Are both Andersson and Kylington higher on the Flames prospect list than Hickey, in your opinion? I think it works to move one of the three—the difficult part s choosing the right one.

Agreed, I don't think it's worth the risk. You know that probably just one of them is going to turn into a top 4 NHL D man. Which one....

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Are both Andersson and Kylington higher on the Flames prospect list than Hickey, in your opinion? I think it works to move one of the three—the difficult part s choosing the right one.

Tough call honestly. If I were GM and had to pick one of the three to move, Andersson would NOT move at all, he's the best of both the other players, so well balanced.

Which leaves Hickey and Kylington left to decide on.

Really depends on if you want All-world skating and offense in your line up or a more defensively sound player to anchor your already bolstered offensive top 6.

If I were to pick, I'd move Hickey. Kylington has the "It" factor about him that is too tantalizing to let go. Only because I think you can find more defensively sound player easily in the Market wheras gifted talents like Kylington only become available when on the verge of busting or being driven out for character issues.

They all fit the MO of the Flames defense, they all just bring it to the table differently.

[heep223]

At risk of beating a dead horse, I would also add that Bennett has been hugely impressive IMO in spite of his lack of scoring this season. His skating, puck skills, IQ and physicality are all above average already. When he puts on some weight, polishes the details of his game, quickens his release and learns the details on preparation and how to be a pro - I think his ceiling truly is #1 center in the Toews mold.

You don't trade that for an undersized, skilled winger (we already have a few of those). Particularly one who is essentially unproven and is having problems cracking an NHL lineup.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Even Horvat is worth tons more than Drouin? If I had Drouin, I sure wouldn't trade him for Horvat. The only way you win that is if Drouin busts.

Sure, Drouin's upside is higher than Horvat's. But Horvat has been showing for a season and a hoalf already that he is a legitmate NHLer.

IF Drouin meets his potential, he's worth more. But will he? What are the odds?

If you factor Drouin at maybe 60-75% likely to be the player he can be, then Horvat probably has more value right now. IMO, Horvat does have more value.

And from there, it goes without saying that Bennett definitely has more value. Bennett has already demonstrated signs that he can/will be the player that he can be. And, he is a C.

Those two facts, plus the fact that he has done so at a younger age, put him clearly ahead of Drouin in value at this point, IMO.

[dammage79]

Thats right, you trade for Drouin to help Bennett.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Tough call honestly. If I were GM and had to pick one of the three to move, Andersson would NOT move at all, he's the best of both the other players, so well balanced.

Which leaves Hickey and Kylington left to decide on.

Really depends on if you want All-world skating and offense in your line up or a more defensively sound player to anchor your already bolstered offensive top 6.

If I were to pick, I'd move Hickey. Kylington has the "It" factor about him that is too tantalizing to let go. Only because I think you can find more defensively sound player easily in the Market wheras gifted talents like Kylington only become available when on the verge of busting or being driven out for character issues.

They all fit the MO of the Flames defense, they all just bring it to the table differently.

Yeah, very tough call.

For me, Kyllington has the upside - no way I move him unless it's for something fantastic, like Drouin.

Andersson has the potential to be a very good, all-around player. But Hickey is more likely to be an NHLer, IMO, because of his size and skating.

If I had to give up one in a trade, I think it would be Andersson.

Very tough call though.

[Bar-Down]

CGY 1st rounder + Kylington

for

Drouin

Possible? Too much? Too little?

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, very tough call.

For me, Kyllington has the upside - no way I move him unless it's for something fantastic, like Drouin.

Andersson has the potential to be a very good, all-around player. But Hickey is more likely to be an NHLer, IMO, because of his size and skating.

If I had to give up one in a trade, I think it would be Andersson.

Very tough call though.

Andersson is 2nd in the OHL for points from a defenceman. Was also almost a point per game last year, and is a right handed shot. I'd put him above Hickey in my books.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

CGY 1st rounder + Kylington

for

Drouin

Possible? Too much? Too little?

No thanks.

[JJ1532]

Why do we want Drouin? Does he help you get past the likes of Anaheim, LA and Chicago? Not for me.

Don't get me wrong, having speed and skill is all well and good, but will that get you deep into the Western Conference play offs on a consistent basis? At the risk of sounding like Burke, we need more size and I'm not a huge advocate of having size. But the Ducks and Kings games for me really hammered home that not only are we lacking quality in our top 6, we are also lacking size throughout the team. Hell, even teams like the Stars have big top end guys who can throw a huge hit. We need forwards who play a hard physical game, but can also mix it skill wise.

I would much rather go for Gauthier or another big bodied winger at the draft than trade for another small guy like Drouin.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bar-Down

CGY 1st rounder + Kylington

for

Drouin

Possible? Too much? Too little?

Too much. Calgary may still miss the POs and be in the lottery. Kylington is good.

Second rounder + Morrison and Wotherspoon.