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Old 12-30-2015, 08:49 AM   #3901
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Man this could have been a real mess

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A few minutes before landing at about 8:30 a.m. PT on Dec. 19, the air traffic control tower offered up runway 16 Center to Alaska Flight 27. The flight was originally scheduled to land on 16 Right. The crew accepted, but minutes later, the pilot mistakenly landed on the taxiway in-between the runways.
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Old 12-30-2015, 11:39 AM   #3902
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Here's the AV Herald entry
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Old 12-30-2015, 12:59 PM   #3903
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:05 PM   #3904
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Maybe this shows it better.

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Maybe this shows it better.

close, except the image is missing 16R on the right of T and 16C, 16R is where it was supposed to land.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:58 PM   #3906
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close, except the image is missing 16R on the right of T and 16C, 16R is where it was supposed to land.
No, it was supposed to land on 16C, not 16R.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:35 PM   #3907
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close, except the image is missing 16R on the right of T and 16C, 16R is where it was supposed to land.
Wrong. In any event, the reason I didn't include 16R in the picture is cause the Google Earth topography is screwed up over there. But if you wish -

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Now that is fun looking runway!
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Why not put a permanent one of these on either end of any taxiway that could possibly be taken for a landing surface. Yeah you shouldn't have to, but it can't hurt.

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Twitter is saying an Air Canada plane is being diverted to Calgary due to injuries during turbulence. Looks like AC88 from Shanghai to Toronto is the plane.
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Twitter is saying an Air Canada plane is being diverted to Calgary due to injuries during turbulence. Looks like AC88 from Shanghai to Toronto is the plane.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...gary-1.3384986
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AvGeek Quiz By Jon Ostrower
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https://www.qzzr.com/c/quiz/144140/e...3-c0e9ab6aac62

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Several experts in this thread... why would oxygen masks deploy in severe turbulence?
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Several experts in this thread... why would oxygen masks deploy in severe turbulence?
The severe turbulence jars the doors open, and gravity takes care of the rest. They wouldn't have been intentionally deployed.
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Old 12-31-2015, 10:53 AM   #3916
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So as a few members know on here, I am a wuss when it comes to flying. Of course, I fly out to Denver tomorrow, and the whole Air Canada thing has my anxiety up.

As I know there are a ton of aviation experts in this thread, curious about a couple questions.

1) How often does severe turbulance actually occur in commercial flying? It seems like you hear about it every couple of years. Is it quite rare?

2) Everyone says turbulance is normal and is no actual danger to the plane, yet you hear about how turbulance can damage the plane...can anyone provide some clarification on this for me.

Sorry for the worry-wort post, but I find education is usually the best tool to deal with this stuff.
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The severe turbulence jars the doors open, and gravity takes care of the rest. They wouldn't have been intentionally deployed.
Ah, makes sense, thanks. I wasn't sure if they needed the oxygen for some reason (like the severe turbulence caused pressurization issues).

Either way... I'd be freaking out in turbulence that bad.
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The experts on here can probably do a much better than job than I, but think about it this way, most turbulence is only bouncing the plane a few inches. Severe turbulence, maybe a few feet?

Planes around the world fly through and around heavy weather hundreds of times a day. Planes will fly back and forth multiple times in a day through the same weather without incident.
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So as a few members know on here, I am a wuss when it comes to flying. Of course, I fly out to Denver tomorrow, and the whole Air Canada thing has my anxiety up.

As I know there are a ton of aviation experts in this thread, curious about a couple questions.

1) How often does severe turbulance actually occur in commercial flying? It seems like you hear about it every couple of years. Is it quite rare?

2) Everyone says turbulance is normal and is no actual danger to the plane, yet you hear about how turbulance can damage the plane...can anyone provide some clarification on this for me.

Sorry for the worry-wort post, but I find education is usually the best tool to deal with this stuff.
I have real anxiety/panic about flying. Far from an expert but for me I'd try to take comfort from the fact that the plane went through turbulence that severe (people thrown into the ceilings), for 40 minutes, and they managed to come through it just fine and land safely.
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So as a few members know on here, I am a wuss when it comes to flying. Of course, I fly out to Denver tomorrow, and the whole Air Canada thing has my anxiety up.

As I know there are a ton of aviation experts in this thread, curious about a couple questions.

1) How often does severe turbulance actually occur in commercial flying? It seems like you hear about it every couple of years. Is it quite rare?

2) Everyone says turbulance is normal and is no actual danger to the plane, yet you hear about how turbulance can damage the plane...can anyone provide some clarification on this for me.

Sorry for the worry-wort post, but I find education is usually the best tool to deal with this stuff.
Severe turbulence is quite rare. It is uncomfortable and can be scary but it isn't dangerous: http://www.askthepilot.com/questionanswers/turbulence/

"About sixty people, two-thirds of them flight attendants, are injured by turbulence annually in the United States. That works out to about twenty passengers. Twenty out of the 800 million or so who fly each year in this country."

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