[News] UPD: Wild Claim Stoll. Khudobin clears waivers.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Can't believe the Rangers ran out of lines for Stoll in New York.

I knew he'd blow it

[IgiTang]

Is Ortio in Stockton ATM or still up with the Flames?

All this talk about Khudobin is really showing g what an absolute mess this goaltending situation is.

Add another goalie who can't cut it with another team? Picking him up is simply a throwing mud at the wall strategy.

That is not how you build a winner. Simply waiting to see what sticks after you throw that much crap at it.

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Gillies isn't going anywhere until he recovers from his surgery. It comes down to Ortio, Poulin, and Simpson. Simpson can be sent to the ECHL at any time, and I suspect Poulin would also go if asked. So far this season, he's been claimed off waivers once and traded for future considerations once. He probably wouldn't pass up any opportunity to keep playing so he can work his way back up.

Any of our AHL goalies can also be traded to another AHL team.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Is Ortio in Stockton ATM or still up with the Flames?

All this talk about Khudobin is really showing g what an absolute mess this goaltending situation is.

Add another goalie who can't cut it with another team? Picking him up is simply a throwing mud at the wall strategy.

That is not how you build a winner. Simply waiting to see what sticks after you throw that much crap at it.

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

Khudobins contract is up at the end of the year as well I believe. He's not going to be part of any long term solution, but he's an improvement

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

If you have a long-term plan, the middle of December, just before the NHL roster freeze and DURING Brian Burke's team roster freeze, is not the time to do anything about it. At this point, the best we can look for is Band-Aids to get us through the season, and then fix the problem next summer.

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Any of our AHL goalies can also be traded to another AHL team.

Good point.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Is Ortio in Stockton ATM or still up with the Flames?

All this talk about Khudobin is really showing g what an absolute mess this goaltending situation is.

Add another goalie who can't cut it with another team? Picking him up is simply a throwing mud at the wall strategy.

That is not how you build a winner. Simply waiting to see what sticks after you throw that much crap at it.

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

Grabbing Khudobin could be a short term solution for this year as a back-up. Sorry but Hiller is looking like the worst back-up in the league and Ramo is no starter.

Long term will probably have to be adressed in the off season. Flames will have to trade for a true starter.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Is Ortio in Stockton ATM or still up with the Flames?

All this talk about Khudobin is really showing g what an absolute mess this goaltending situation is.

Add another goalie who can't cut it with another team? Picking him up is simply a throwing mud at the wall strategy.

That is not how you build a winner. Simply waiting to see what sticks after you throw that much crap at it.

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

Ortio is in Stockton. However, gathering up and trying under-used and goalies who might blossom until one works is actually how a lot of teams get good goalies. It's how the Flames finally landed a Kipper after years of trying to replace Vernon (including through the worst way - using a first round pick). Hasek was third on Chicago's depth chart when he was traded to the Sabres. Dubnyk was an Oiler cast-off.

[Vulcan]

Bernier gets Toronto's next start on Tuesday. Could be a make or break game for him.

[PeteMoss]

I doubt Ramo/Hiller are as bad as they've shown this year. I don't think they are any good, but they aren't awful. Wouldn't shock me if the Flames don't bother with a claim but wouldn't complain if they did.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I thought Khudobin looked very impressive in Boston and his first year in Carolina. Then he became inconsistent.

I think he is as inconsistent as Ramo and Hiller. However, a free waiver-wire pickup for a huge black hole on the Flames with at least 'some' track record of success and without term or risk is probably worth it.

Becomes a bit of a mess again on the Flames, however. Hiller has a NMC, or a NTC? I wouldn't pick up Khudobin unless the Flames could send Hiller down (or somehow trade him - which is next to impossible at the moment with his performance and contract). Replacing Ramo with Khudobin is at best a lateral move. May work out well, but far from certain.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Is Ortio in Stockton ATM or still up with the Flames?

All this talk about Khudobin is really showing g what an absolute mess this goaltending situation is.

Add another goalie who can't cut it with another team? Picking him up is simply a throwing mud at the wall strategy.

That is not how you build a winner. Simply waiting to see what sticks after you throw that much crap at it.

The Flames need a long term plan. Grabbing waiver goalies is not the solution.

You can look at some of the decent goalies over the past 10 years, and there seem to be quite a few that couldn't cut it with one team only to settle in and perform well with another.

Khudobin reminds me of Kipper back in his early days, in that when he is on his game, he shows really good potential, but when he is off, he is barely adequate. The Flames and Marcoux were able to get him to be more consistent and it worked out. I wouldn't mind taking a similar gamble with Khudobin.

[dammage79]

I don't mind the Khudobin thing as you could walk into next season with a new pairing. Be it, Raanta/Khudobin. At least with Khudobin being claimed you can see what you have before investing further for next year.

I kind of look at Dubnyk and say to myself a lot, it's all about finding the best fit. Goalies look terrible on other teams and then magically seems to find a star role on others. Kipper did it, Dubnyk did it.

What is clear to me is Ramo/Hiller are not fits on this team anymore. The sooner you start planning for the following year the better.


So start now with a free goalie.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

nm

[btimbit]

Wasnt that long ago there was discussion on making a trade for him. Now that we could get him for free its a no brainer imo

[ClubFlames]

Khudobin could be a Dubnyk type pick up this year.

[Vulcan]

Hiller has a NMC, or a NTC? I wouldn't pick up Khudobin unless the Flames could send Hiller down (or somehow trade him - which is next to impossible at the moment with his performance and contract).

Hiller doesn't have a NMC or a NTC. He can be shipped out yesterday.

[jammies]

Grabbing other teams' backups in the hopes of stopping up a hole is so Oilers.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by jammies

Grabbing other teams' backups in the hopes of stopping up a hole is so Oilers.

Yeah and they ended up with what looks like a legit #1 now in Nilsson. You got to keeping mining the field until you hit paydirt, again it's all about finding the best fit.

We know Hiller/Ramo are not the answers. Let's try to find one. Why is this such a point of contention?

[dino7c]

Kipper couldn't cut it with the Sharks

If the GM sees something in the guy its worth giving him a shot

"trade for a starter"

yeah good luck with that

[Vinny01]

Khudobin was so bad when the Ducks faced the Flames earlier in the year. We need a real starter this is a waste of a contract and not the answer.