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		|  12-07-2015, 06:44 PM | #1 |  
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				 2016/17 Salary cap projected to be between $71.5 million to $74.5 million 
 
			
			Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNICRange on salary cap given out, with high number of $74.5M.
 
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 That would include the inflator and best possible outcome.
 
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		|  12-07-2015, 06:55 PM | #2 |  
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			I hope our dollar doesn't stay in the toilet for much longer......could get painful for ownership.
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		|  12-07-2015, 06:57 PM | #3 |  
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			Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietvaCap between 71.5 ans 74.5M next season according to Gary Bettman. #tvasports
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		|  12-07-2015, 07:03 PM | #4 |  
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			What is it this year again? 69? 71?
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 07:06 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by FBI  What is it this year again? 69? 71? |  
Google says 71.4.
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		|  12-07-2015, 07:08 PM | #6 |  
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			So for all the paranoia talk, it is still going to go up yet again.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 07:15 PM | #7 |  
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			Surprising given the Canadian dollar
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		|  12-07-2015, 07:59 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by FBI  So for all the paranoia talk, it is still going to go up yet again. |  
Looks like it's because of the escalator clause. It will be more telling what it ends up the year after.
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:25 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by FBI  So for all the paranoia talk, it is still going to go up yet again. |  
This year, the cap actually would have gone down 2 percent – but the NHLPA invoked the escalator clause. Next year, the cap will go down anywhere from zero to 5 percent – but the NHLPA is expected to invoke the escalator clause.
 
But sure, saying that the cap doesn't always go up is ‘paranoia talk’. Whatever.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:28 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by FBI  So for all the paranoia talk, it is still going to go up yet again. |  
It will never, ever go down. Its a union establishment. Unions dont take pay cuts.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:29 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Locke  It will never, ever go down. Its a union establishment. Unions dont take pay cuts. |  
Tell that to the people who worked for Canadian Airlines.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:31 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  Tell that to the people who worked for Canadian Airlines. |  
I dont have to, by the time they realized the burden the whole thing went belly up.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:32 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  This year, the cap actually would have gone down 2 percent – but the NHLPA invoked the escalator clause. Next year, the cap will go down anywhere from zero to 5 percent – but the NHLPA is expected to invoke the escalator clause.
 But sure, saying that the cap doesn't always go up is ‘paranoia talk’. Whatever.
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I'm just saying, I'm always hearing talk about teams worried that the cap is going to go down, yet it never actually does. Even with the way the economy is and the canadian dollar etc.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:32 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Locke  I dont have to, by the time they realized the burden the whole thing went belly up. |  
Exactly.
 
Now, what are the odds that Gary Bettman will allow the NHLPA to pull the same stunt?
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:36 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  Exactly.
 Now, what are the odds that Gary Bettman will allow the NHLPA to pull the same stunt?
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His hands are tied on that. Theres a reason that they made sure that they have an escalator clause. 
 
Has the NHLPA ever not used it? 
 
If, considering the current states of the North American Economy, the Canadian Dollar and various other factors, the escalator clause can still outweigh any economic imbalances in order to still increase the cap it would take a depression of serious magnitude to see the cap go down.
 
Its all built into the structure. 
 
Unions do not take wage cuts.
		 
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		|  12-07-2015, 11:49 PM | #16 |  
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			As always, the thing to remember is that the escalator is only applied to the previous season's actual revenues, not the previous season's projected revenue.
 If this year's cap was set for a projected revenue of $4 billion, but the actual revenue was $3.5 billion, next year's cap would be set for a projected revenue of $3.675 billion, not $4.2 billion. So, in that situation, the cap would go down even with the escalator applied.
 
 If next year's cap is the same as this year's, that would mean that this year's revenue is about the same as last year's.
 
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		|  12-08-2015, 01:20 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by Locke  His hands are tied on that. Theres a reason that they made sure that they have an escalator clause. |  
The escalator clause is for a fixed five percent. If HRR drops year-to-year by more than five percent, the cap goes down even with the escalator.
 
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		| Has the NHLPA ever not used it? |  
Not that I know of. So what?
 
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		| If, considering the current states of the North American Economy, the Canadian Dollar and various other factors, the escalator clause can still outweigh any economic imbalances in order to still increase the cap it would take a depression of serious magnitude to see the cap go down. |  
It's an open question whether that will be the case next year. The *expectation* is that the cap will not be less than $71.5m. That is not a certainty.
 
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Right. And the possibility of the cap going down is also built into the structure.
 
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So when every player in the league had his wages cut by 24 percent after the '04-05 lockout, that was not a wage cut? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
		 
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		|  12-08-2015, 06:27 AM | #18 |  
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			Plenty of room for Gio's deal now. No worries.
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		|  12-08-2015, 07:13 AM | #19 |  
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			Thanks to Rogers and that ridiculous TV deal I supposed the NHL can tread water in these times.  Looking at the empty seats in a lot of US and even some Canadian cities it's hard to imagine the cap reaching that $80 million dollar mark that was speculated a few years back any time soon.
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		|  12-08-2015, 07:02 PM | #20 |  
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			All about the T.V deals it certainly isn't a growth in attendance. So many US markets are horrendous for attendance.
		 
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