If she's a Starbucks customer I feel sorry for the woman I read about whose name really is Mary Christmas. I can imagine the looks of derision she would get from Starbucks employees.
If you want a Starbucks employee to write "Merry Christmas" on your cup, your best bet is to tell them your name is something like Larry Kingston.
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If she's a Starbucks customer I feel sorry for the woman I read about whose name really is Mary Christmas. I can imagine the looks of derision she would get from Starbucks employees.
I probably would expect looks of derision if I started giving out more than just my first name to Starbucks too.
To repeat what many other people have said - commerce and big business have done much more to damage valuable cultural traditions than your average motley group of atheist rabble-rousers. It is even more sad that we have become dependent on these corporate outfits to create and bear the symbols for this most precious of holidays.
If it really is the most precious of holidays to you, it shouldn't really matter what big business "does" to it. For those religiously inclined, it is a religious holiday. For the rest of us, it has no religious significance, obviously. I don't see why it is sad. My indifference shouldn't affect how you view Christmas.
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If it really is the most precious of holidays to you, it shouldn't really matter what big business "does" to it. For those religiously inclined, it is a religious holiday. For the rest of us, it has no religious significance, obviously. I don't see why it is sad. My indifference shouldn't affect how you view Christmas.
but you have to question why they took the decorations off the cups.
either have the decorations or just have normal cups. just a red cup seems weird.
I know I may be out to lunch, but maybe it's just a more minimalist design they decided to go with this year instead of a busier design. Does everything have to have some sort of ulterior motive?
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I'm such a badass nihilist that I have the barista put my egg nog latte in my black travel mug. The eggnog symbolizes the rich and yet fleeting lives we live, but the black mug symbolizes the fact that those lives are contained within the darkness of our own ignorance. So we fill our lives with tradition and ill-founded belief, and that in turn gives our lives an artificial warmth. And upon death, we simply slip from that warmth and are nothing, digested by the cosmos. The nutmeg doesn't symbolize anything, it's just delicious.
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No. Canada day is a set of beliefs and ceremony based around nationalism. It's a nationalist holiday.
Halloween I'll admit is more of a blurred line.
Once again, I don't think I've ever mentioned that you have to say Happy Holidays. However, if you expect every person to say Merry Christmas to you back, I think you've crossed a line. If your getting offended by someone acting awkwardly when you greet them with a greeting about Christ's Mass, the problem is with you. Similarly, if some people choose to say Happy Holidays, that's their choice too.
I Think we are arguing different points. I'm arguing that government and corporate institutions who say happy holidays to avoid offense are diluting cultural celebrations and rather hypocritical when other holidays are left alone and we shouldn't let the religious past of a holiday get in the way of celebrating the secular holiday now in the present.
I agree with you that no one should be offended regardless of what people say.
But I take issue who say happy holidays or season greetings if the reason is to avoid offending people. If the reason you use happy holidays is because that's what you want to wish people have at her. But faux Pc and Faux outrage really shouldn't be part of it.
So I took a look around starbucks when I went for coffee today. There is Christmas stuff everywhere, and the word Christmas appears everywhere. There is miseltoe images on the windows, there are bags of coffee that are a Christmas blend. There were even little coffee cup Christmas tree ornaments for sale...they are basically bashing you over the head with Christmas imagery at every turn. The people that are whining about the cup obviously didn't look around the rest of the store. This is a complete non issue started by idiots.
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I Think we are arguing different points. I'm arguing that government and corporate institutions who say happy holidays to avoid offense are diluting cultural celebrations and rather hypocritical when other holidays are left alone and we shouldn't let the religious past of a holiday get in the way of celebrating the secular holiday now in the present.
I agree with you that no one should be offended regardless of what people say.
But I take issue who say happy holidays or season greetings if the reason is to avoid offending people. If the reason you use happy holidays is because that's what you want to wish people have at her. But faux Pc and Faux outrage really shouldn't be part of it.
Is that why they do it though? Maybe it is a recognition that the Christian holiday isn't the only one celebrated in December, and that there are many reasons someone would be wishing a more general happy holiday, as opposed to Merry Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...idays#December
I've got no issues with either greeting. We aren't a Christian country, so I don't see why we should be bothered by a more inclusive greeting. You know, in the spirit of the holiday...I'm sure Christ would approve.
Is that why they do it though? Maybe it is a recognition that the Christian holiday isn't the only one celebrated in December, and that there are many reasons someone would be wishing a more general happy holiday, as opposed to Merry Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...idays#December
I've got no issues with either greeting. We aren't a Christian country, so I don't see why we should be bothered by a more inclusive greeting. You know, in the spirit of the holiday...I'm sure Christ would approve.
So I took a look around starbucks when I went for coffee today. There is Christmas stuff everywhere, and the word Christmas appears everywhere. There is miseltoe images on the windows, there are bags of coffee that are a Christmas blend. There were even little coffee cup Christmas tree ornaments for sale...they are basically bashing you over the head with Christmas imagery at every turn. The people that are whining about the cup obviously didn't look around the rest of the store. This is a complete non issue started by idiots.
Did you ask for Holiday Blend instead of Christmas Blend to be sensitive to the Barista's belief system that might potentially get offended at the use of the word Christmas? Of course if you didn't do this, you are an extreme racist, bigot and intolerant ####### who has no empathy for the suffering of people who might get offended at your words.
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Ironically, this is the same "pastor" that urged Christians to literally arm themselves against same-sex marriage rights. He'd probably want somebody to shoot up Starbucks.
