Key word . You can object to organized religion and still believe in some principle of a higher being in the form of one all knowing god. I don't know your inlaws or your family as a whole but all the homeschooled people I do know they had some sort of "religous" upbringing . They told me tales about their lives where homeschooling was supposed to be a way of sheltering them from outside ideas the parents didn't share . They said ot was like being in a juevinale detention center with a day pass. They often only had playdates with other home schooled kids because the couldn't connect or meet other children that shared interests naturally.
From the stories I have heard I don't ever want to homeschool my kids.
They are not religious at all in fact, but they are complete conspiracy theorists and survivalists. Don't get me wrong, they are nutcases, just not religious nutcases.
Their main purpose of homeschooling is because they think public schools indoctrinate kids to become worker bees, stifle creativity and every second their kid would be in school would be a second that they weren't practicing their music and art.
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He molested his sisters and his parents knowingly covered it ip as well as the police cheif knew about it but was close friends when his parnets did the same. As an adult used ashley madison to have affairs all while having a show on TLC to promote strong a rare form of Christianity called Quiverfall. A religion that gets its' name from pslam 127. This religion beleives god controls the womb and each child is a blessing and another arrow in God's fight against the evil in his holy war. A han must rule his castle and prepare for evils war that lay on his doorstep. It is like a radical offset of Mormonism.
The movement as a whole has always had sevre controversy linked molestation in young children within and oustside of the family unit. yes it is a 100% chance could be a because some one when they were covered up abuse .
"Quiverfull."
And no, the movement has nothing to do with Mormonism. Quiverfullers are fundamentalists that have their roots in Evangelical Christianity.
I think the most serious problems with the home schooling movement is its veiled rejection of authority. Don't get me wrong: as an educator and a father I am well aware of the dramatically different pedagogical needs that all kids have, and I do believe that under certain conditions, home schooling is probably better for some kids than modern traditional schooling. Having said that, one of the underlying premises of the movement that I have seen propagated in a lot of the literature is the very strong expression of family autonomy: that is, a rejection of institutional support for social construction and especially education, and an insistence that these belong under the purview of the family. The reason why many parents choose to homeschool their children is their distrust of government institutions, and a firm belief that education is a family mandate. The reason the Duggars did not report abuse in their family is the strong conviction that it was an internal family matter that was best dealt with at that level. Home schooling contributes significantly to that ideal—even if unintentionally, and it is dangerous.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
And no, the movement has nothing to do with Mormonism. Quiverfullers are fundamentalists that have their roots in Evangelical Christianity.
I think the most serious problems with the home schooling movement is its veiled rejection of authority. Don't get me wrong: as an educator and a father I am well aware of the dramatically different pedagogical needs that all kids have, and I do believe that under certain conditions, home schooling is probably better for some kids than modern traditional schooling. Having said that, one of the underlying premises of the movement that I have seen propagated in a lot of the literature is the very strong expression of family autonomy: that is, a rejection of institutional support for social construction and especially education, and an insistence that these belong under the purview of the family. The reason why many parents choose to homeschool their children is their distrust of government institutions, and a firm belief that education is a family mandate. The reason the Duggars did not report abuse in their family is the strong conviction that it was an internal family matter that was best dealt with at that level. Home schooling contributes significantly to that ideal—even if unintentionally, and it is dangerous.
Agreed, home schooling seems to fly in the face of "village raising a child".
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Agreed, home schooling seems to fly in the face of "village raising a child".
The reason why this is a problem within the context of fundamentalist stripes of Christianity has to do with an adherence to a ridiculously antiquated form of education. The Bible strongly promotes household education in line with how children received instruction in the ancient world. Christians who believe strongly in the inerrancy of scripture read passages like Deut 6:1–9 and Prov 22:6, and take them very seriously to mean that parents ARE divinely mandated to teach, and are solely responsible for the education of their children. For many such Christians public education and other social services are viewed as a moral and cultural failure of parents to do their jobs. This is how I grew up, although I was never home schooled. I suspect the reason for that has to do with the much lower level of access to home schooling resources in the 70s and early 80s.
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This is child abuse. These children are not being raised to live normal, productive lives. They are not even being given a chance.
"We teach the bible, not math...". Isn't there some sort of minimum requirement to demonstrate that you are homeschooling, you are actually trying to educate them? These people are not, and if that's not illegal, it should be.
I'm sure these nuts don't expect the girls to ever work, and plan to marry them off to some other family of weirdos, but their must be some boys in that brood? They can know the bible front to back, but if they don't know anything else (including how to count), what the hell are they gonna do?
I'm sure these nuts don't expect the girls to ever work, and plan to marry them off to some other family of weirdos, but their must be some boys in that brood? They can know the bible front to back, but if they don't know anything else (including how to count), what the hell are they gonna do?
Go forth and multiply at a much faster pace than most other people in this world . . . just like her mother.
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I'm sure these nuts don't expect the girls to ever work, and plan to marry them off to some other family of weirdos, but their must be some boys in that brood? They can know the bible front to back, but if they don't know anything else (including how to count), what the hell are they gonna do?
Teach Sunday school?
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I'm not a fan of home schooling. I agree that there are certain cases where circumstances make it the best option, but I don't think it is for the vast majority of children. Whether for religious reasons or others, most people who choose home schooling do so because they want to keep their children apart from others.
This leads to the question of what happens when the child grows up? Does the child become a member of a group that closes itself off from society? In some cases, that is the goal. Or does the child now have to try and fit into a society that he/she was either not a part of, or only a part-time member of during childhood? How does your child learn to deal with society as an adult, if he/she didn't start the process as a child? Not impossible, but much harder in many cases.
Now the above is assuming that the children were taught the basic curriculum, which I think is a requirement in Alberta. A family like the Duggars, however, appears not to follow anything close to a typical curriculum and instead has older children instructing younger ones in mostly religious knowledge. If there is going to be home schooling in the province, these are not the people who should be telling others how to do it (even without getting into accusations of sexual abuse).
My older brother and sister were both home schooled for much of their education. We called it correspondence back than. We were a strongly socialist atheist family but our isolation probably had more to do with it. It didn't seem to affect them as one grew up to be a teacher and the other a prof. My brother particularly enjoyed it because he could keep his rifle beside him in case he heard any ducks flying over.
My older brother and sister were both home schooled for much of their education. We called it correspondence back than. We were a strongly socialist atheist family but our isolation probably had more to do with it. It didn't seem to affect them as one grew up to be a teacher and the other a prof. My brother particularly enjoyed it because he could keep his rifle beside him in case he heard any ducks flying over.
Pretty sure that's totally different than the Duggars' take on home schooling! :-)
In some cases, home schooling is the best option. Home schooled children don't automatically have a hard time at "society" later on. Some kids are resilient and will succeed no matter what. Others will have a harder time, but still get there. And a significant number will find the struggle to adjust to be very challenging, which is why I don't really like the idea, unless there is a specific need (e.g. a child who is medically fragile and needs to be in a carefully controlled and supervised environment).
The Alberta Home Education Association announced Sunday night that it’s cancelling the Duggars’ planned speech after pushback from its membership.
“Although early feedback from our members this summer was supportive of having the Duggars come here, recent feedback from our own members points out that their appearance here would not be in the best interests of home educators,” AHEA president Paul van den Bosch said in a statement.
Van den Bosch also highlighted another speech about preventing child abuse that will go ahead as planned.
“As we have learned, child abuse can happen in any home and is never ‘old news’,” he said.
