Columbus hires John Tortorella

[sureLoss]

Brandon Dubinsky was always in Tortorella's doghouse in NY. Could see him on the way out like Huselius when Keenan was hired.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by ernie

Perhaps the not living in Canada thing doesn't matter, however, the not showing up to run practices thing. Ya that matters.

I have never heard of this not showing up for practices. I will ask around tomorrow when at work. Interesting if true.

[Locke]

Really? So the Canucks stop paying him his ridiculous salary and get a 2nd rounder out of the deal?

Looks like Christmas comes early in Vancouver this year.

[TurdFerguson]

Duby for Backlund and Wotherspoon.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Locke

Really? So the Canucks stop paying him his ridiculous salary and get a 2nd rounder out of the deal?

Looks like Christmas comes early in Vancouver this year.

Reports are Canucks will still be paying part of Tort's salary while he is in Columbus.

[nik-]

When do we play Columbus? That's probably when our season gets turned around.

edit: Jan 21 ... way too late

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Reports are Canucks will still be paying part of Tort's salary while he is in Columbus.

They can retain salary on coaches now? Since when? I miss all the neat little rules.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I think Torts is as ridiculous as anyone, but the didn't live in Canada was, and continues to be, a terrible statement designed to make him look like he was light years away. He's American. His wife is American. They own businesses in the States. For tax purposes it was advantageous to live there. He was in Point Roberts which takes about the same time to get to the rink as driving from West or North Vancouver, and likely less time than Surrey. It's two minutes from Delta, which is where some players live. Many, many canucks and Grizzlies have lived there and will live there in the future. It's not like he was living in New York and working in Vancouver, making it impossible to get to the rink each day.

Tell you what, I'll leave from North van and you leave from point Roberts. $100 on me arriving to Rogers arena at least 25 minutes before you. At least.

Your point of him not living in bc not being a big deal is spot on, but don't say it could get to the rink in the same time as people from the north shore. That's just silly talk.

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not a surprise. I will be very surprised if Richards finds another NHL head coach job as he's proven to be a below average head coach. As for Torts getting hired this will either go well or go very badly. I personally think he's a better coach than a lot of people give him credit for as that Canucks season was as much a Gillis implosion than anything else.

EE...I disagree...he seems an overrated, inflexible, screamer...his my way or the highway treatment of players wears swiftly...

I see this hiring as soon to be every bit of the disaster that Torts to Vancouver was...

I commented that when Richards benched Dubinsky for a selfish penalty in the Chicago game, that there might be repercussions...for Dubinsky, this repercussion couldn't be much worse!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

EE...I disagree...he seems an overrated, inflexible, screamer...his my way or the highway treatment of players wears swiftly...

I see this hiring as soon to be every bit of the disaster that Torts to Vancouver was...

I commented that when Richards benched Dubinsky for a selfish penalty in the Chicago game, that there might be repercussions...for Dubinsky, this repercussion couldn't be much worse!

His record speaks otherwise as he's won a cup and he has won his share of playoff series. He's not a HOF coach but he's a winner. I get that he's a polarizing guy and all and he's not a good fit for every single team but there are worse head coaches in the NHL today.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Locke

They can retain salary on coaches now? Since when? I miss all the neat little rules.

It has always been the case. Coaching contracts are guaranteed. If the new team is only willing to pay the coach less than what he was making with old team, the old team has to pay the difference.

[thefoss1957]

EE...Columbus, in goal, in particular, has players with confidence problems...Bob, just isn't exactly a very veteran Khabibulin, that Torts won with in TB...nor are the BJs other options in net all that impressive...Torts' criticism of goaltenders, his confrontational personal style, and the BJs general lack of completely developed talent, along with an apparent unwillingness to adapt system to available talent (IMO, his main weakness in Vancouver), all lead me to believe that he will be a bad fit in Columbus, and in the "New" NHL in general.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Tell you what, I'll leave from North van and you leave from point Roberts. $100 on me arriving to Rogers arena at least 25 minutes before you. At least.

Your point of him not living in bc not being a big deal is spot on, but don't say it could get to the rink in the same time as people from the north shore. That's just silly talk.

If I get to pick the time of day, and location in North Vancouver, then you are on. You are also not allowed to take the sea bus.

It depends on the bridge, traffic, suicide jumpers, etc. It took me 45 minutes to go from the Pier Hotel to Yaletown by car the few times I've had to travel that route. I've also been coming back from Whistler and taken over an hour to get from Taylor Way to downtown. I've driven to/from Point Roberts many times, and although it's longer, the traffic moves much better, depending on the tunnel.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I think Torts is as ridiculous as anyone, but the didn't live in Canada was, and continues to be, a terrible statement designed to make him look like he was light years away. He's American. His wife is American. They own businesses in the States. For tax purposes it was advantageous to live there. He was in Point Roberts which takes about the same time to get to the rink as driving from West or North Vancouver, and likely less time than Surrey. It's two minutes from Delta, which is where some players live. Many, many canucks and Grizzlies have lived there and will live there in the future. It's not like he was living in New York and working in Vancouver, making it impossible to get to the rink each day.

Originally Posted by ernie

Perhaps the not living in Canada thing doesn't matter, however, the not showing up to run practices thing. Ya that matters.

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

I have never heard of this not showing up for practices. I will ask around tomorrow when at work. Interesting if true.

From Botchford the game after Gillis got fired

Tortorella does his media obligation before his team skates, and then usually goes home.

It’s odd. Has been all year.

He did the same Saturday.

it was morning skates he didnt attend, was never on the ice with the team

the team even put a murphy bed in his office so that if he needed to take a nap he would stay in the city, still went home to Point Roberts

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

If I get to pick the time of day, and location in North Vancouver, then you are on. You are also not allowed to take the sea bus.

I could be at the top of Grouse at 2am and still beat you to Rogers.

[Harry Lime]

Taking a look at the Blue Jacket's depth chart, and their farm team, that looks like a very well built organization

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Locke

Really? So the Canucks stop paying him his ridiculous salary and get a 2nd rounder out of the deal?

Looks like Christmas comes early in Vancouver this year.

Benning's best trade by far

[Southside]

Regardless your profession, I think it important that you live where you work.

I have lived in smaller communities near larger centres and when we had doctors, teachers, police officers etc. working in the community but living elsewhere, it never really worked out. I'm sure its still an issue in that and other communities, if it's a good enough place to take a paycheque from it should be a good enough place to raise a family, make friends and spend that paycheque.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I could be at the top of Grouse at 2am and still beat you to Rogers.

Gleneagles Golf course at 3pm. I get that's in West Vancouver, but I did say that in my first email. 2am cuts all your traffic out, which is what I was implying. If you want to make it North Van, then Grouse Mountain is acceptable.

I really think they are drives that take similar times. Point Roberts is obviously further.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I think Torts is as ridiculous as anyone, but the didn't live in Canada was, and continues to be, a terrible statement designed to make him look like he was light years away. He's American. His wife is American. They own businesses in the States. For tax purposes it was advantageous to live there. He was in Point Roberts which takes about the same time to get to the rink as driving from West or North Vancouver, and likely less time than Surrey. It's two minutes from Delta, which is where some players live. Many, many canucks and Grizzlies have lived there and will live there in the future. It's not like he was living in New York and working in Vancouver, making it impossible to get to the rink each day.

Well it's not that CLOSE but it's a nice location and I'd rather live there than most places around here.