Liberals wins 54% of seats with 39.5% of national vote. Justin has promised to reform the system that has now given him a clear majority.
Will be interesting to see if he makes good
I agree - this is a fundamental promise he's made, to try and inject some sort of electoral balance between seats and vote percentage.
Also interesting, during the last election the PCs won 54% of the seats on 39.6% of the popular vote.
It's interesting that the numbers are (essentially) identical. I don't know that it really say anything specific, just an interesting quirk in the numbers.
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I really, really want to think Trudeau is going to go about this in an inclusive way, and supported Matt Grant in my riding, but I'm finding it impossible not to prepare myself for Liberal shunning when it comes to representation in our next gov't.
Prove me wrong, Justin.
He pretty much has to if he ever wants to get more than 2 or 3 seats in Alberta. I think a lot of us will be disappointed if Hehr is passed over for cabinet, perfect chance to put out an olive branch.
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Liberals wins 54% of seats with 39.5% of national vote. Justin has promised to reform the system that has now given him a clear majority.
Will be interesting to see if he makes good
No one has been near 50% since 1984. It will always be tough for the winner in the current system to change the system that just got them elected.
The main benefactors of a different system are parties like the NDP and the Greens who are way under-represented for their actual vote percentage.
I agree - this is a fundamental promise he's made, to try and inject some sort of electoral balance between seats and vote percentage.
Also interesting, during the last election the PCs won 54% of the seats on 39.6% of the popular vote.
It's interesting that the numbers are (essentially) identical. I don't know that it really say anything specific, just an interesting quirk in the numbers.
It's hard to imagine a system that gave seats based on popular vote percentage without completely changing the whole underlying concept of the House.
It seems the most legitimate thing that could be done is to allow voters second and third choices and pick the seats by run off. The most non-equitable times of Canadian government were when you'd have Liberal majorities while the majority wanted right of center parties (but split their votes in all the ridings between Reform and PCs), or conservatives would have majority governments while the majority would split their votes on the left leaning parties.
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Liberals wins 54% of seats with 39.5% of national vote. Justin has promised to reform the system that has now given him a clear majority.
Will be interesting to see if he makes good
Interesting also that Harper after many minority governments finally got that 39.5%. Liberals are starting there.
Harper really made no attempt to reach out to the other 60% just hoping to win on splits. What can Trudeau change?
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Interesting also that Harper after many minority governments finally got that 39.5%. Liberals are starting there.
Harper really made no attempt to reach out to the other 60% just hoping to win on splits. What can Trudeau change?
He can make good on promises.
He can run an open and transparent government.
He can enact policy that benefits all Canadians, and not pander to any particular voter base/interest group. (Lots of headlines already about Ontario wanting payback for essentially giving him the mandate).
If Trudeau does that, while not getting in the way of economic growth, he can be around for a while
The real interesting thing is what the CPC will do. If Trudeau manages to do most of that, they can hardly out-justin Justin to make any gains.
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Was very, very impressed with Matt Grant's campaign and am pretty disappointed he was defeated by a terrible conservative candidate in Confederation.
Hope it's not the last we'll see of Grant. (Probably won't be.)
No one has been near 50% since 1984. It will always be tough for the winner in the current system to change the system that just got them elected.
The main benefactors of a different system are parties like the NDP and the Greens who are way under-represented for their actual vote percentage.
All those so-called progressives who argued Harper's majority was "illegitimate" because he had less than 40% of the national vote should be saying the same thing about Trudeau. Any moment now... waaaaaait for it.... c'mon guys. Guys? huh...
As far as proportional representation goes, it is hard to argue that a party that gets 0-4% of the vote pretty much everywhere but Vancouver Island deserves more than the one seat it got.
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All those so-called progressives who argued Harper's majority was "illegitimate" because he had less than 40% of the national vote should be saying the same thing about Trudeau. Any moment now... waaaaaait for it.... c'mon guys. Guys? huh...
As far as proportional representation goes, it is hard to argue that a party that gets 0-4% of the vote pretty much everywhere but Vancouver Island deserves more than the one seat it got.
Well first of all you know that PR is the rallying cry of the losing party, regardless of which party. Second, as far as the number of seats to which percentage its easy enough to set a hurdle rate for parties to achieve a certain percentage before they get seats.
On topic, I am thrilled for Kent Hehr and I think that he will do an amazing job as MP. He should definitely be in cabinet, first of all as representing Calgary Centre, but second because he was a popular 2 term MLA and obviously has some experience to lend. I'm disappointed that Matt Grant didn't get in as well; I think that he would be twice the MP that Webber will be regardless of policy.
