Hathaway, Sieloff, Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison to Stockton. UPD: Shore clears

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but Raphael Diaz also placed on waivers today.

[Robo]

was hoping to see raymond on waivers too

[nik-]

[Vinny01]

Not like we gave up much to get him but I suspect he will clear.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

one of the best faceoff guys on the team and had the highest PPG on Adirondack last season. He'll look good in Arizona this year.

Kind of misleading. He had a high PPG on San Antonio, kinda nothing on Adirondack

[Erick Estrada]

Hope he clears but I think he gets claimed. Can't keep everyone.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

one of the best faceoff guys on the team and had the highest PPG on Adirondack last season. He'll look good in Arizona this year.

Since when is he one of the best faceoff guys on the team? Maybe in AHL? Certainly not in NHL. Unless you are basing it on the total of 59 (29W-30L) faceoffs he took last year which is a very small number.

[FlamesAddiction]

Edmonton will claim him. He is probably better than half their team.

[FBI]

We all kinda saw this coming through preseason play. Too bad, had higher hopes for this guy. Others more deserving though.

[JetsFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by nik-

uh... ok?

[Racki]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Edmonton will claim him. He is probably better than half their team.

I completely expect him to be claimed by the Oilers as well.

[GreenLantern2814]

We've had a bum run of players wearing 22 post-Langkow. Stempniak, Setoguchi and Shore. Alliterative as well.

Hope the kid gets claimed. Free up a contract, reduce the roster logjam. Organizationally, they can withstand the loss of Drew Shore.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Not unexpected. Not shocked. But I am curious to see if this league wide interest in Shore was real.

The level of interest teams have at the deadline is a lot different than the level of interest teams have at the end of training camp.

After the deadline, the roster limit is lifted, teams are struggling with injuries, and they know which of their own prospects are ready for the NHL at that time. Plus, Shore was a pending RFA, so acquiring him carried no long-term commitment. If the team that acquired him had to trade him, they'd likely get something decent in return in the summer.

Now, teams have to work with the 23 man roster limit and most of their players are healthy. Teams also want to fill the few rosters holes they may have with prospects who are already in their own system. At this time of year, every team has bubble guys like Shore that they're trying to get through waivers into the AHL.


Even if he clears on October 3, it doesn't mean there wasn't interest in him on March 2.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by hummdeedoo

I think that's real close to what will happen - although I think Raymond gets waived and we have 13 forwards, 7 D and 3 goalies to start.

I do hope you are right, but what is sad is that Raymond gets a further shot in the regular season to prove himself, just because he is a vet. Where Shore actually outplayed him imo.

[Lanny_McDonald]

No big loss if he gets picked up. We have better home grown talent in the minors.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

Since when is he one of the best faceoff guys on the team? Maybe in AHL? Certainly not in NHL. Unless you are basing it on the total of 59 (29W-30L) faceoffs he took last year which is a very small number.

We was 21/26 in preseason, and spent all summer working on faceoffs and it look like it's paid off. Granlund was 9/21.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by jaikorven

I do hope you are right, but what is sad is that Raymond gets a further shot in the regular season to prove himself, just because he is a vet. Where Shore actually outplayed him imo.

Honestly I don't think Shore outplayed Raymond last night. Raymond almost had 2 goals and at least plays a speedy game. He even drove the net once which I've never seen him do before. Shore just moseys around the neutral zone not doing a whole lot.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

one of the best faceoff guys on the team and had the highest PPG on Adirondack last season. He'll look good in Arizona this year.

He'll probably get the same 3-4 million contract Schlemko got too right?

Some people around here start to like one player and then think that player is amazing and worth more than we think. Shore just wasn't good enough, if the team loses a fringe NHL'er for nothing it really doesn't matter. And I'm still trying to find out in what world he was one of the best faceoff guys or had the highest PPG.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

We was 21/26 in preseason, and spent all summer working on faceoffs and it look like it's paid off. Granlund was 9/21.

Maybe he should of spend all summer working on another part of his game, because everything else was lacking.

Honestly Cheerio, with your track record it's safe to say you are terrible at evaluating players.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Honestly I don't think Shore outplayed Raymond last night. Raymond almost had 2 goals and at least plays a speedy game. He even drove the net once which I've never seen him do before. Shore just moseys around the neutral zone not doing a whole lot.

Oh I don't dispute your comment, but I meant over the whole of training camp, not just last night's game. Either way I just want Raymond gone. He is not top 14 on the Flames forwards.