[News] Curtis Glencross Retires

[D as in David]

He didn't look really impactful last night so I am not surprised by this. Sad to see it happen, though.

It is amazing how quickly things are changing towards youth and speed in the NHL. Expansion probably can't happen fast enough for some of the older players in the league.

[Iveman]

I thought there was some interest from Colorado for Glencross at one time.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by nik-

He was definitely not on the game that made him effective the last couple of seasons, but it's still crazy just how fast his career imploded.

I think by last couple of seasons you mean 4 and 5 years ago. His 2 seasons that made everyone think he was something special. His regression since then has led him to his current predicament.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Iveman

I thought there was some interest from Colorado for Glencross at one time.

Yeah, but PTO players are followed by all teams that are interested, regardless of what team they're trying out with. I don't think it's one of those things were the agent has other interested teams in their back pocket in case they're released.

I'd imagine when you're released so quickly, especially from a team like the Leafs, the formerly interested teams either

A) Were following very closely and didn't like what they saw, just like the team they were trying out for, or;

B) Weren't following intently and go "Well, he got cut by the Leafs pretty quickly, so he probably wasn't going to make our team either".

I'd bet this is it for him unless he wants to try to work his way back up from the AHL (if a contract is available), but I'd be willing to bet he packs it in and moves on with his life, he seems grounded like that.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Our 1st, 2nd, 3rd and Glencross turned into Hamilton and Kylington

Homerun

Originally Posted by dustygoon

How on earth do the Oilers not sign this guy at the minimum? Crazy.

He's not good enough to help the Oilers.

Originally Posted by BigRed

Jeebus. It's not like Glencross is a tweener. Whatever you think of him, he's an NHL player. This shouldn't be so tough for him.

No he isn't, that's why it's so tough for him.

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

It's amazing how quickly things can turn in the league. Seems like the middle road players are squeezed out once their peak performance is over. Salary cap forces teams to give a kid the icetime and invest the money in star players.

Glencross has been in a steady decline for the last 3-4 years.

At this point, it's not a cap issue as an ELC is likely negligibly cheaper than what Glencross would be commanding from a PTO.

Originally Posted by chedder

I think by last couple of seasons you mean 4 and 5 years ago. His 2 seasons that made everyone think he was something special. His regression since then has led him to his current predicament.

Precisely. When he isn't scoring, he's not good enough to play in NHL.

[jayswin]

Yeah, I think Glencross' decline was pretty apparent a few years ago, he was almost kind of propped up on CP by posters who were countering the so called "anti-Glencross" posters.

Basically, he became so polarizing on CP that he wasn't as awful as the negative guys claimed, but he was clearly struggling and declining as a player contrary to the constant Glencross defender's beliefs. The reality was he was a declining player for the last 3 to 4 years, to the point where we hasn't even needed on our roster last year, passed over by the whole team, and it's incredible that we got value in that trade.

[The Fonz]

If Curtis Glencross can't get a contract, there is no way in hell anyone will take Raymond in a trade.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, I think Glencross' decline was pretty apparent a few years ago, he was almost kind of propped up on CP by posters who were countering the so called "anti-Glencross" posters.

Basically, he became so polarizing on CP that he wasn't as awful as the negative guys claimed, but he was clearly struggling and declining as a player contrary to the constant Glencross defender's beliefs. The reality was he was a declining player for the last 3 to 4 years, to the point where we hasn't even needed on our roster last year, passed over by the whole team, and it's incredible that we got value in that trade.

Yeah, it's like the Caps don't have pro scouts or even watch Western games because they are on too late.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

If Curtis Glencross can't get a contract, there is no way in hell anyone will take Raymond in a trade.

Right now I'd rather have Glencross than Raymond.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Right now I'd rather have Glencross than Raymond.

You'd rather have neither. Glencross only wins because he doesn't have two years on his deal.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

It's amazing how quickly things can turn in the league. Seems like the middle road players are squeezed out once their peak performance is over. Salary cap forces teams to give a kid the icetime and invest the money in star players.

This was predicted back when the cap was first introduced - that the NHL would eventually come to be like the NBA, where each team has a few stars who command enormous salaries, and the rest of the roster is mostly cheap young players and bargain-basement journeymen. Middle of the road players have no place in that structure the moment their play drops off.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

You'd rather have neither. Glencross only wins because he doesn't have two years on his deal.

Both are streaky scorers but Glencross wins as he can bring a physical aspect to his game.

[FlameZilla]

Did Treliving offer him any sort of contract extension midseason or did Glencross make it clear he was going to the open market?

I bet he'll be looking for a new agent soon...

I feel sorry for the guy but there is no room for him at all. Perhaps he can saddle up with Iggy & the rest of the country-club crew down in Denver...

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Did Treliving offer him any sort of contract extension midseason or did Glencross make it clear he was going to the open market?

I bet he'll be looking for a new agent soon...

I feel sorry for the guy but there is no room for him at all. Perhaps he can saddle up with Iggy & the rest of the country-club crew down in Denver...

I am not sure what (if any) offers were made, but I do know that Treliving was actively trying to re-sign Glencross, but the demands from the Glencross camp was much higher than Treliving was willing to go. Whether that means term, dollars or both, I have no idea. Whatever Glencross was demanding was very far from what Treliving was thinking of retaining him for, and negotiations just stopped I think before the mid-season mark IIRC. I am sure someone knows more, but just what I have to offer anyways.

Still surprised that Toronto cut him. Doesn't bode well for him getting another opportunity somewhere else. Arizona maybe? Columbus (I think they got hit with another 6 injuries at the moment, but no idea what any of the timetables are). I can't really think of too many rosters that have more room than Toronto does at the moment, especially factoring in how many contract spots Toronto opened up with the Grabner trade.

[getbak]

When Burke was on the radio a few weeks ago (at the golf tournament, IIRC), he was asked if he was surprised that Glencross had to take a PTO. His response was along the lines of saying that things can change quickly in today's NHL, and if you don't take a contract offer when it's offered, it may not be there a second time.

From the way he said it, my inference is that the Flames made him an offer on an extension but he wanted to test free agency or thought he was worth more than the Flames were willing to pay him.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, but PTO players are followed by all teams that are interested, regardless of what team they're trying out with. I don't think it's one of those things were the agent has other interested teams in their back pocket in case they're released.

I'd imagine when you're released so quickly, especially from a team like the Leafs, the formerly interested teams either

A) Were following very closely and didn't like what they saw, just like the team they were trying out for, or;

B) Weren't following intently and go "Well, he got cut by the Leafs pretty quickly, so he probably wasn't going to make our team either".

I'd bet this is it for him unless he wants to try to work his way back up from the AHL (if a contract is available), but I'd be willing to bet he packs it in and moves on with his life, he seems grounded like that.

My guess is that his only chance is to reinvent himself; He needs to hit the gym put on some muscle and come back with a lot more grit to his game. I am guessing he just didn't bring enough and doesn't have the intangibles needed. Not enough talent for a top 6 and enough grit for a bottom 6. If he was bigger stronger I bet he makes the team.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

This was predicted back when the cap was first introduced - that the NHL would eventually come to be like the NBA, where each team has a few stars who command enormous salaries, and the rest of the roster is mostly cheap young players and bargain-basement journeymen. Middle of the road players have no place in that structure the moment their play drops off.

It was but I'm not sure it applies to this situation at all. He was on a PTO so he was going to get a low contract. His salary would have had nothing to do with him being cut.

Glencross is 33 now. He's well past his prime and most teams would rather have the young guy who might break out in their bottom forwards rather than an older guy.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

My guess is that his only chance is to reinvent himself; He needs to hit the gym put on some muscle and come back with a lot more grit to his game.

Grit and muscle don't cut much ice when the legs can't keep up with the play anymore.

[Super-Rye]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Glencross end up in LA.

He is still a solid two-way NHL forward and Sutter is a pretty loyal guy.

I'm not an expert on the LA Kings or their depth chart but a quick glance at their roster shows that they could probably use another NHL winger, and they have some cap space to play with.

A 1 year 700K deal could be beneficial to both parties.

[Coach]

europe is always an option as well.